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    • OP stated they had been arrested, but not charged (let alone convicted). They DON'T have a criminal record, but do have an entry on the PNC. That information stays on the PNC (Police National Computer) for life, but doesn't get released in a standard DBS. It only MIGHT get released for an Enhanced DBS (eDBS) check  ... but it would be incredibly unlikely. (The rational behind this is that eDBS's allow for 'information at Chief Officer of Police's discretion' ..... this covers the 2 'barring lists' and is also intended for the scenario where someone has multiple arrests or investigations, where safeguarding is a concern .... it was brought in after the Soham murders / Ian Huntley case, where the information known about the now-convicted child murderer may have prevented his employment in a school, had it been made available). So, for the sake of accuracy and completeness, arrests stay on the PNC for life, wont appear in a standard DBS, MIGHT appear in an eDBS, but in reality, would be the exception rather than the norm, and I can't see them being released  to a defense barrister. What then if the defence found out a different way, and brought it up in court?. Again, unlikely, but the important feature is that the judge would make sure they trod very carefully!. They MIGHT consider using it if there were other factors that allowed them to try to cast doubts as to the truthfulness of your evidence, but on its own : No way. Anyone MIGHT be arrested (if a seemingly plausible complaint been made against them)! The approach to take if it did come up is to be truthful. "Yes, I was arrested. It arose from a vexatious complaint. I wasn't charged, let alone convicted. That could happen to any one of us, if a vexatious complaint gets made" Far better that than lying, saying you'd never been arrested, and getting caught in a lie : that would ruin your credibility. I'm incredibly doubtful it will even come up, though.
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    • Post #9 suggested some options to avoid or put off having a smart meter. Post #12 a simple solution to your complaint about the ay they handle fixed monthly DD. It's not really clear why you posted if you're going get irate when members "jump in" with suggestions. You can see what I'm referring to on "gasracker.uk" to allay your suspicion that I was lying in Post #16 which was made to correct ther misinformation shown in your Post #15
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I've read enough on herd immunity to get confused, but I believe that no 10's strategy of letting everyone get ill at the same time, without initially protecting the vulnerable, would have completely overwhelmed the NHS and caused an unspeakable number of deaths.

 

A number of commentators are saying that 'herd immunity' was another way of dressing up doing nothing.

 

 

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I think the johnson version of 'herd immunity' was proven to be of limited effectiveness around 1350 wasn't it?

 

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LOL good one

 

Yes I mean the year 1350 and the black plague,

 

...... Although for Johnson it was quite possibly 10 to 2 the day before yesterday

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The johnson plan was until recently as stated earlier in the thread.

In simple terms that is:

 

get everyone who wasn't in at at risk category infected while somehow hoping that 'at risk' people could be kept away from it somehow and wouldn't be exposed to it while the population at large everywhere was - and then hope that people actually did get immune and weren't carriers,

and ignoring the fact that many might be infected and contagious with no symptoms and that allegedly not 'at risk' folk could still end up very ill/dead

 

- at best

 

 

 

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Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

10 years to save the Vest

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51 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

The johnson plan was until recently as stated earlier in the thread.

In simple terms that is:

 

get everyone who wasn't in at at risk category infected while somehow hoping that 'at risk' people could be kept away from it somehow and wouldn't be exposed to it while the population at large everywhere was - and then hope that people actually did get immune and weren't carriers,

and ignoring the fact that many might be infected and contagious with no symptoms and that allegedly not 'at risk' folk could still end up very ill/dead

 

- at best

 

 

 

 

This is why herd immunity could never succeed as a strategy. It sounds great in theory but you simply cannot 'manage' a high contagious virus in a population of 60 million people. Additionally the idea would be impossible to sell politically, and that's precisely what happened.

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5 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

I've read enough on herd immunity to get confused, but I believe that no 10's strategy of letting everyone get ill at the same time, without initially protecting the vulnerable, would have completely overwhelmed the NHS and caused an unspeakable number of deaths.

 

A number of commentators are saying that 'herd immunity' was another way of dressing up doing nothing.

 

 

So why did they not just insist all the MPs be in lockdown in the Houses of Parliament for a couple of days ?  Then they could all be unwell together. 

 

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2 hours ago, maroondevo52 said:

My Grand-daughter knows nothing about this.  She is a Senior Nurse in a Group Practice   I have emailed her the link. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, citizenB said:

My Grand-daughter knows nothing about this.  She is a Senior Nurse in a Group Practice   I have emailed her the link. 

 

 

She is being tested on Monday.. :) 

 

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She is being tested on Monday.. :) 

 

Hope it all goes well for her CB, let us know how she gets on.

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👍 will do. 

 

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Anyone know if Pritti Patel is in lockdown?

 

As she was clearly, demonstrably and video evidentially in VERY close contact (sat closely between)at least two people who have tested positive well within the 5 day approx average incubation period let alone longer.

 

or is she still out and about on official (or unofficial given her history) government/personal business?

.. Which allegedly includes screaming shouting and spraying at those she considers minions (aka nearly everybody)

 

or dont the rules apply to those in power or rich if it doesn't suit them?

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Can you imagine another 3 months of lock down ?

 

Possible public disorder events may be triggered. 

 

Apparently some shops that have closed are taking no chances and removing anything of high value into warehouse storage. Don't know whether this is true or just rumour .   Have seen some boarding up of windows and  shutters on doors in some premises that expect to be closed for a long period.

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I cant see schools opening before Sept unless they get wholesale testing out and the results warrant it.

 

In fact I cant see much of anything changing before then without wholesale testing - which is a real requirement

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Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

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5 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

I cant see schools opening before Sept unless they get wholesale testing out and the results warrant it.

I've had the feeling from the start that's the plan.  I have tenants whose business relies on children in what was my elderly aunt's place.  They have gone from successful business to zero overnight.  She died at the beginning of this month so I've been able to agree with the other executor and beneficiary that we reduce the rent on their home to £0/month for three months at a time.  We'll 'review' every three months but we don't realistically expect to see any rent (or be able to put the house on the market) until the beginning of next year so we can either take the worry off their shoulders or be nasty.

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Can you imagine another 3 months of lock down ?

 

Possible public disorder events may be triggered. 

 

Apparently some shops that have closed are taking no chances and removing anything of high value into warehouse storage. Don't know whether this is true or just rumour .   Have seen some boarding up of windows and  shutters on doors in some premises that expect to be closed for a long period.

 

Yeh think they know things will kick off, loads of shops restaurants and bars boarded up in Glasgow.

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I'm very sorry about your aunt, hightail, my condolences. I hope she's in a better place now.

 

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Thank you. Very old, far from unexpected.  We live in 'interesting' times and my focus now is on the living.

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Absolutely disgusting and uncalled for, no  wonder the virus is spreading 

 

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-police-karaoke-party-lockdown-155617425.html😠

 

 

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11 minutes ago, snowdragon said:

Absolutely disgusting and uncalled for, no  wonder the virus is spreading 

I'd seen that.  It's truly unbelievable isn't it.  Unfortunately Darwinsim doesn't work in this situation, they don't hurt themselves, only others.

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and although the announcement that the desperately needed protection equipment supposedly has been delivered to hospitals .. if its true

... It is ridiculously late

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-ventilators-boris-johnson-email-nhs-testing-kits-a9432296.html

 

"A blunder that may have seen the UK miss out on an offer of 25,000 life-saving ventilators will be investigated, Michael Gove says.

A Cheshire company says it also told the Department of Health it could secure 50 million coronavirus testing kits – but its email went unanswered for two weeks.

The ventilators were then snapped up by other countries, Direct Access has revealed, adding to criticism of ministers for failing to prepare for an expected deluge of desperately ill patients."

 

 

 

I know nurses and staff in hospitals who were right up to last friday face to face with patients since the outbreak with no face masks, few gloves and not even hand sanitiser which had run out or been stolen.

 

 

 

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