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VCS ANPR - double dipping - St Mary's Gate Retail Park, S1 4QZ

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For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]


please answer the following questions.


1 Date of the infringement - 24.12.19


2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] - 09.01.20


3 Date received - 13.01.20


4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] N


5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Y


6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] N

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] N


7 Who is the parking company? VCS (Vehicle Control Services)


8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] St Mary's Gate Retail Park Car Park, Sheffield, S1 4QZ


For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org)



bit of a strange one this and not sure what the best way to approach is,


the 'offence' is actually two visits to the same car park on the same day,

I can clearly remember the day as it was Christmas Eve and the google location service on my mobile phone tell me exactly what my movements were.


I arrived in the car park at 11.10, did some shopping and left left at 11.47.

Later in the day I received a message that a present I'd ordered had been received and I returned to collect it from the particular shop, I arrived back at around 14.30 and left at 14.52.


Clearly VCS have used the time of entry from my first visit and the time of exit from my second and assumed I was parked for the duration (which I wasn't),

I haven't appealed as this requires me to complete a field stating whether I was the vehicles keeper, driver or hirer 'when the contravention occurred' which seems like an admission of guilt.


I notice the issue date is 17 days after the date of the 'offence' which, but conscious there are 3 bank holidays included in this period so wasn't sure if that was relevant?!


Irrespective of the ridiculousness of the parking charge, I'm not convinced I broke any of their 'rules', the total time I was parked was less than the 60 mins permitted (although across two visits) and so I don't think I contravened the rule they say I have (i.e. parked longer than the maximum period permitted).


Any advice on how to proceed would be gratefully received.


Many thanks

VCS 9.1.20.pdf

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They appear to be out of time to issue the NTK and it's also a classic case of 'double dipping'. Take a screenshot of your movements from that day and keep it safe somewhere, as it may prove useful later.


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Thank you for taking the time to time to reply.


I did wonder if there would be any mileage in making a subject access request to the data controller in the hopes that would mean them sending me pictures of my car leaving the car park earlier that day, but not sure if the SAR would require they send me copies of all the pictures they had of my car?!

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not worth it.

if simon Renshaw smith want to issue a letter of claim

let him go ahead.


he'll lose hands down any court claim.


the NTK is out of time

the event encompasses 2 visits.

there is no '1 hours free parking' limit...it will be atleast +2hrs on the originally granted planning permission from the council..and n-one can change that.


it will also help you to read these

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-8889411648654839:3134625398&q=St Mary's Gate Retail Park%2C S1 4QZ&oq=St Mary's Gate Retail Park%2C S1 4QZ&gs_l=partner-generic.12...2930513.2930513.0.2931743.






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