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I read this somewhere but now you say 30 it becomes clear, self doubt I guess, but by the 16th of this month the alleged PCN/ntk is over 6 months so bylaw prosecution passed, intend to send reply after the 16.

By the way thanks for everything you do and the cag team.

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use the blue text in the earlier post

do not adapt it.

 

doesn't matter when you send it as long as you meet the 30days

it does clearly state 30days on the PAPLOC if you go look.

it's part of the PAP rules.

 

dx

 


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👍 wondered about this:

Even Will and John, the parking worlds’ worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf.

 

Best to leave it out?

sign? 

Yours faithfully

Resistered keeper

 

(i think)!

 

Sorry,  just curious how they getting on and what they actually have done, 

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Back to post #28 you says don’t adapt it but another says change as not from dca but from vcs direct, just curious?

apologies again

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wont harm you no ..as simply simon will no doubt be aware who will/john are anyhow..

but yes as you spotted elsewhere, that last bit was not necessary.

 

i wouldn't be signing no

just print your name.

 

dx


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Cant see it making any odds


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18 hours ago, Whats happening dude said:

👍 wondered about this:

Even Will and John, the parking worlds’ worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf.

 

Best to leave it out?

sign? 

Yours faithfully

Resistered keeper

 

(i think)!

 

Sorry,  just curious how they getting on and what they actually have done, 

This is there because the original letter was sent to a firm of solicitors. You are not writing to them but to VCS directly so Simple Simon is the person you refer to  as Simon Renshaw-Smith owns both VCS and Excel Parking and often forgets which company is doing what.

 so to write to VCS you say

Dear Sirs,

i am in receipt of your latest missive and from the moment I picked it up to the moment I put it down I was convulsed in laughter, someday I intend to read it but until the time hell freezes over simple Simon knows that the byelaws override any possible contractual offer and anyways a prohibition is not an offer of a parking contract.

As he has had many a spanking in court simple Simon also knows that he wil be paying my full costs for unreasobale conduct and I may well sue you for breach of the GDPR as per VCS v Phillip, Liverpool CC dec 2016 and other cases.

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Hi all

a claim form,

issue date 19th Feb, 

turned up today so a clock is ticking!

 

This is same in description as other recently posted by others. 

Please advise best timescales to log on Mcol ,

 then to send the templated letter

aos edited to suit of course to vcs. 

 

on the claim form it leaves some space for writing defence !

 

It is to assume for now for a no stopping event is the following  points? ; 

 

1. No cause for action against the defendant the defendant is the keeper of the vehicle and VCS have failed to show who was driving at the time and so cannot create a keeper liability as they have failed to follow the protocols of the POFA 2012

 

2 no contract can exist between VCS and the defendant as the land is governed by its own byelaws and these have supremacy of VCS management arrangements and that also means no keeper liability can  exist. 

 

3. The claimant has no locus standi 

 

4. in any case the signage is prohibitive in nature and not a genuine offer of terms for parking for a motorist to consider, Therefore it is denied that there was any ability for the driver to contract with the Claimant. 

 

So:

When does the above go in at before 14 days? or is this the before 33 day last min! .

 

WS ? is this the lengthy detailed response to the aos reply but is not in the frame until actually any court date tracked. So after 33 days!

 

 Thanks 

 

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Hi.

 

Can you give us the information requested in the forum sticky please? We can give better advise then.

 

HB

 


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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you do not use the forms, they are only for ref

 

do that link..

we'll advise what to do and WHEN

 

till then..sit on your hands

do nothing TILL ADVISED.

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Name of the Claimant  VCS LTD

 

Date of issue –  19 Feb 2020

 

What is the claim for – 

 

1.The Claim is for breach of contract for breaching the  terms and conditions set on private land. 

 

2.The Defendant's vehicle, xxxxxx was identified in the East Midlands Airport on the xx/xx/xx in breach of advertised  terms and conditions; namely stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited. 

 

3.At all material times the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver. 

 

4.The  terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. 

 

5.The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. 

 

6.The signs specifically detail the  terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply, namely a  parking charge notice will be issued, and the Defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability.

 

7.The Claimant seeks the recovery of the  parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.

 

What is the value of the claim? £185.00

 

Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ? CLAIM ISSUED BY VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? NO NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT

 

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pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.

 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]


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So then what is the difference between  defence and a witness statement and when and to what extent do you play your hand in defence? 

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easiest way is get reading up....

 

use our custom goggle search box

that if you can't find, comes up after hitting our top squares logo.

 

claimform no stopping.

 

dx

 

 

 


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Hi yes done all this but there is conflicting information.

 

For the AOS I see the template letter to edit and for using. but for defence regarding

 

no stopping,

prohibited signage

no parking event

grace periods

codes of practice etc

are all understood

 

it’s when to actually use the info when and at what time! 

 

this can for example be simply just 5 bullet points in defence I read

 

but when is this instigated and witness statements they seem to be at length

 

so when does this come into play? 

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there is not conflicting advice

simply you are rushing and NOT reading those threads i suggested.

 

read my post carefully!!

 

follow what is says to do for AOS online..carefully

 

then send the CPR template to VCS.

you don't and  can't file anything WITH AOS.

 

defence will inly be a few basic std points in most no stopping threads already here.

 

IF it goes to the hearing stage after you refusing mediation {by n180} you then get N157 for allocation to your local court and a hearing date

THEN you expand your defence in your WS exchange.

 

the bottom line is byelaws overrule.

 

dx

 

 


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eh??

 

no READ POST 43!!

 

 


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Sorry I don’t think you get what I  mean, all I am asking is when do you actually start to defend their fictional claim using the few basic points, ‘defence will inly be a few basic std points in most no stopping threads already here.’

I am sorry to be a pain 

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sorry to be a pain

but why can't you READ what I posted above in post 43 repeated below:

 

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.

 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]

………………..

what does it say in thwe last 2 lines here ^^^

 

…………..

 

also 

you've already filled out this link

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/393251-received-a-court-claim-from-a-private-parking-speculative-invoice-how-to-deal-with-it-hereupdated-aug-2016/

 

it fully details the timeline.

 

.......

 

ask way if its still not clear 

but most people seem to understand it ok...

 

dx

 

 

 


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Ahh it is post 42 not 43! And you must file a defence by day 33, how do you get supplied a form from court?

 

Do the AOS now and send off the CPR request tomorrow (get a free certificate of posting from the post office).  VCS won't reply as their boss is a greedy & arrogant oaf, and that will go in your favour in court.

 

When the time comes to file a defence, yes you can fill in the form the court sends, or you can do it via MCOL which is easier, your choice. 

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