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UKCPS MNPR CCTV PCN - Gateway House Manchester Piccadilly

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I got a NTK recently for an "offence" of stopping in a hatched area to drop off my daughter at the train station.

 

The date issued was 23/11/2019 and the date of sending was 18/12/2019 and received 19/12/2019.

 

I have read about a 14 day period of notification being required but am unclear if this applies to  being detected by CCTV (NON POFA MNPR) & would be grateful if someone could explain.

 

ie is it then possible to challenge the issue of this "Parking charge"? Thanks

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Hi. Thank you for starting a new thread.

 

Could you let us have the information requested in the forum sticky please? That will help us to advise you.

 

HB

 


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Thanks for replying so quickly. The info is below and hopefully a PDF scan -

Date of the infringement 23/11/2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 18/12/2019

 

3 Date received 19/12/2019

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] NO

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

 

7 Who is the parking company? UKCPS

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Gateway House, Piccadilly, Manchester

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. IAS

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here NONE

 

 

 

ukcps_mnpr_pcn_ntk.pdf

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Don't waste your time appealing.

They were too late sending out the PCN  to qualify for POFA which means that they can only pursue the driver so it is important not to appeal as that may reveal if you were the driver.

In any event there is no such thing as no stopping so there is nothing that they can do. 

 

All you have to do is to totally ignore all their correspondence and that of their unregulated debt collectors threatening to hang draw and quarter you while escalating the amount owed up to £160 or so. They then reduce the price as a gesture of goodwill. yeah right. You owe them nothing so they are acting like crooks. 

 

In the meantime have a look at other threads on here especially the no waiting ones and come back to us in the unlikely event that they send you a Letter before Claim/Action.

 

They shouldn't be stupid enough to take you to Court as they have no case, but they may try to scare you into paying.

We advise you to send them a snotty letter so they know they have been rumbled and that is when they give up and go after another motorist who can be frightened into sending them money.

 

So please do not write to them but do let us know if you get an LbC/A.

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don't forget its not a POFA claim

 

read here

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Mornin gang,

 

a new letter received this morning. 

 

I have been reading up albeit a brief read but i have seen contradicting coments of send a response vs Dont respond.

 

I have used the search and found some threads regarding the No Stopping PCN's but I am still ont he fence whether to respond or not.

 

If there is a thread out there that I have missed that has a better explanation then I am all ears!

 

Ill continue to troll through the threads to get as much info as i can!

 

Thanks again!

 

Gee

Binder1.pdf

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That's a reminder letter. You only reply to a Letter Before Action/Claim which should be headed as such.

 

HB

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No problem. :0  Don't be worried to ask, it's better to check with us than reply to something you don't need to or ignore something you should be reacting to.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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In simple terms you are being lied to so a parking co can earn a  few quid from your ignorance.

 

Start to fight back by reading up on them and also the law surrounding car parking contracts. somehting that says no stopping isnt an offer of anything so not a contract that can be offered, considered and accepted. Any charge would be an unlawful penalty.

 

Now council car parks have similar terms but they are allowed to make penalty charges by statute law and the level of these is also prescribed.

 

that is a big difference.

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Thanks to everyone posting advice on here.

 

I ignored the first threatening letter and so the saga continues

- letter No2 arrived yesterday

- a "Notification Letter" that i owe them £100!

 

Going to ignore this one too.

 

Awaiting a Letter Before Action and look forward to your help in telling them where to stick it!

Car Parking letter 2.pdf

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letter before claim from a paperwork only fake/tame solicitor..

 

dx

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Once again thanks for everyones information.

Here is letter 3 - with a price increase!

I do just have a question to the group - I understand there is no such thing as no stopping on private land. But I believe this to be a public road & therefore is the "offence" a valid one?

Thanks

 

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Hi.

 

I've removed your upload as I can read your name and address and you've left in their reference. Please redact  it to make it anonymous and repost.

 

HB


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no its not a public highway 

look at the other gateway house threads use our search 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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if it was a public road then the council would ticket the vehicle and that would mean that these cowboys have no rights to bother you and will have broken the law in doing so.

 

They admit their dont obey the POFA so they have indeed broken the law in obtaining and processing your keeper details but as you are unlikey to sue them they dont care, the other 99  peope out of a hundred wont either and 85% will pay up so they make money out of their unlawful behaviour

 

What is important to remember is that they offer terms to park.

you cant be offered a contract where the only way of forming it is to break it so their contract is prohibitive in nature and unenforceable.

 

I cant sue you because you didnt murder my mother-in -law

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