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they have sent you the wrong cut and paste letter and it is clear they havent spoken to their clients either. They are trying to blindside you into paying up as they get a wedge out of anything you send.

I would suggest that you wait for a lba and then tell them agin waht a bunch of wazzocks they are for being unable to read or count.

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I found it a bit strange when reading it. They repeated, almost verbatim, some of the contents of the responses from Excel. They probably share the same documents to cut and paste from.

I'm going to have a good Christmas and New Year and look forward to their next feeble attempts at bullying.

All the best, and look forward to the next thrilling instalment.

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Will and John, the worlds cleverest solicitors at Gladstones are also Will and John, owners of the IPC, the worlds dodgiest ATA for parking. The reason the letters look the same is they probably wrote the originals for Excel to copy from.

 

Understand, they are not honest brokers, they act for their client and their cliet as solicitors are members of the club that charges then for pushing them towards the lawyerly aspect of their life. They amke money regardless of whether the parking co loses it for following their crap advice.

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Well, here we are a year and three days on. The sleepy little highwayman decides to wake up.

Today I received the Letter Before Claim (attached).

Are ELMS Legal new to the scene, or one of the other cronies under a new guise?

 

Many Thanks.

 

LetterBeforeClaim.pdf

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thread tidied.

 

elms … urm.. looks like a one man band armchair advocate..doesn't appear to be registered as a solicitor on mainstream authorities sites like SRA/FCA.

 

I can't find the real name behind the firm name.

 

let me pull a spies chain.

 

 

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

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Tel:
 
In-house Solicitor at:
Vehicle Control Services Ltd
2 Europa Court,
Sheffield,
South Yorkshire,
S9 1XE,
England
View in Google Maps
Roles at other organisations

 

https://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/person/67740/edmund-jonathan-garvey-shoreman-lawson


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yes other spies have found these out:

note the last comment;;;

 

ELMS Legal Ltd
31 Handley Street
Sleaford
England
NG34 7TQ

 

Company Number: 09160334

 

Director: Ed Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson

 

Companies House link: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09160334

 

Endole link: https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/09160334-elms-legal-limited

 

BizDb link: https://www.bizdb.co.uk/company/landlords-lawyer-ltd-09160334/

 

CILEx Regulation ID: 2164466, Edmund Shoreman-Lawson
(at this link: https://cilexregulation.org.uk/firms/  click on 'Firm Directory' its an auto PDF download
then open PDF and go down to ELMS Legal Ltd

 

Authorised by CILEx Regulation for Civil Litigation: Authorisation No: 2164466

 

Law Society link (Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson): https://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/person/67740/edmund-jonathan-garvey-shoreman-lawson

 

SRA - ELMS Legal Limited (on the link check SRA-regulated people and roles whose name it is)
https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/check-and-find-a-solicitor/solicitors-register/organisation/?sraNumber=630494#headingTwo

 

SRA - Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson (look at where this person works, VCS, MIL Collections)
https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/check-and-find-a-solicitor/solicitors-register/person/?firstName=Edmund&lastName=Jonathan&sraNumber=537827

 

Linkedin link: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/edmund-shoreman-lawson-34557b127

 

This guy does use different versions of his name from full name to leaving some off name.

 

What you will notice is Mr Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson himself is SRA Regulated but ELMS Legal Limited, Vehicle Control Services Ltd & MIL Collection Limited are all not SRA Regulated.

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A read of the legislation for county courts will provide you with conflicting info on who may represent a person at court 

 

My reading is this bloke may pitch up in person but not an employee of the company.

At this stage anyone can fill out letters as the representative.

 

Read up on MIL Collectiosnsand you will see that they have history and a track record of LOSING

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I hope you all had a good Christmas and New Year!

Thanks to all for your input.

 

Here's my proposed response:

 

With reference to your letter of December 2019, reference as above, its contents are acknowledged.

The matter has been passed to yourselves after BW Legal’s failed attempts to bully me into submission; using lies, mistruths and threats of legal proceedings. Perhaps they saw the error of their ways - perhaps not!

As before, I’ll keep this simple so as to avoid confusion.

The Particulars of Debt in your letter are unsubstantiated.

We parked, I paid.


As your client insists on taking Court action, then please advise them that I will make a request to the Court for full costs due to unreasonable behaviour (CPR Part 27.14(2)(g)).

 

 

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Respnd as follows

 

Dear sirs,

I would look forward to seeing you in court but as you have no right of audience in the capacity you correspond in that wont happen.

Tell your client that they know there is no cause for action and they are in breach of the GDPR for obtaining my data so it should be me sending  them threatograms rather than some lickspittle earning a less than honest crust threatening me.

If they have any sense, which would be a very rare thing for a parking company, they will now drop the matter rather than suffer a full costs recovery order for their unreasonable conduct and vex

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Tell your client that they know there is no cause for action and they are in breach of the  GDPR for obtaining my data 

 

The data was obtained pre-GDPR. The PCN was issued on the 14th May 2018, with GDPR becoming effective on the 25th May 2018. Unless it can be applied retrospectively, I feel this is a moot point.

 

Just found an interesting article : https://www.vsec.infinigate.co.uk/blog/according-to-the-gdpr-it-is-in-force-already :

 

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The final commandment that is article 99 reads:

  1. - This Regulation shall enter into force on the twentieth day following that of its publication in the Official - Journal of the European Union.
  2. - It shall apply from 25 May 2018.

One number short of an upside-down mark of the beast, the 99th article suggests that the GDPR has been in force since the twentieth day subsequent to its publication, that being the 17th of May 2016. Yet, its application is not honoured until two years after.

 

 

 

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I wouldn't worry 

they won't know any diff send the snotty letter.

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the write DPA/GDPR instead. As they are STILL processing your data it is factual to say GDPR alone

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