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Today I was shocked to receive a letter from a company called Newlyn, out of the blue, saying I owed L B Waltham Forest £203. Apparently this is for making a "prohibited turn" on 4/5/2019.

 

First of all, this is the very first notification I've had. I have received zero communication from Waltham Forest. 

 

I had to do some digging and found that I was indeed in the area way back in May.However I know the particular area well and truly have no idea what this letter is talking about. If I had received a letter from the council at the time with some evidence of supposed contravention I most likely would have just paid. 

 

I don't want to speak to the bailiffs as I know they are nasty people but I really want to get to the bottom of this. I find it strange that no council letters whatsoever have come through and it's jumped straight to the bailiffs 6 months later.

 

Any advice please.

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Newlyn letter unknown PCN

moved to the bailiff forum.

100's of threads here on unknown PCN's 

 

have you moved since or when you last moved before did you fail to update your V5C?

I will guess this letter is a notice of enforcement giving you 7 days at a fee of £75?

 

dx

 

 

 

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Ah ok, that's probably why. Just recently updated the V5.

No, this letter is for £203 from the bailiffs. I'm guessing the council letters would have gone to the old address. Sp this is the 1st I've heard. 

Not sure what to do. 

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contact the council PCN enforcement dept tomorrow

explain you only recently updated your V5c so everything they sent prior has gone to an old address.

 

they should advise and help and might even put things on hold

it will probably result in you having to file a statutory declaration which costs £5 I think.

then everything should be reset and the bailiffs called off and the fees removed.

but you must act quickly.

 

was the letter a notice of enforcement?

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Actually yes, looking more closely at the bottom it says compliance stage fee £75. Total £278. Such a pain at any time but especially as I knew nothing about it. I still have no idea which road they're talking about so that would be useful to know. 

 

Anyway I will contact the council today. I'm guessing the original fine would have been relatively smaller.

Thanks for your help. 

 

 

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Less £75 could be more than one pcn?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No, I'm not in the habit of collecting pcns! I called the council and apparently I made a right turn out of McDonald's car park. I don't recall seeing any signs otherwise for sure I wouldn't have. First time in the car park and not relevant but I don't eat McDonald's and was just passing through to get back on the road.

 

I now need to appeal.

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Ok being sorted then?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Newlyn letter unknown no right turn council fine

well check things like TRO's are correct etc etc too.

you never know.

 

 

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hmmm, just googled and see that this is a popular cash cow for the council. 

Unless you happen to see the obscure sign in the car park there is no reason to believe that turning right on the road is an issue.

I'll be looking into this.

 

Meanwhile I have to appeal to fend off the bailiffs first.

Very inconvenient as I have to get the forms witnessed at a county court, week days only.

Such an unjust system. 

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don't think so.

you mean your SD?

any sols can do it for £5?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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are the forms that of a statutory declaration?

 

if you wish scan it all up to one multipage pdf after reading upload carefully we'll check for you

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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fill out the PE2... trundle to your nearest Co Court, its free.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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If it is the McD's at the Tesco on High Rd Leytonstone, are you really gonna tell the court you didn't see any right turn prohibitions ?

 

 

 

And yes, the van in the picture is preparing to turn right. If you look closely his right indicator bulb is lit.

 

 

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read upload and redact in jpg then convert using on of the listed websites there to convert to one multipage pdf only

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else anyone can see them caggers or not.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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6 hours ago, CrappoMan said:

If it is the McD's at the Tesco on High Rd Leytonstone, are you really gonna tell the court you didn't see any right turn prohibitions ?

 

And yes, the van in the picture is preparing to turn right. If you look closely his right indicator bulb is lit.

 

 

 

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I don't need to see a picture that has nothing to do with me.

You may scoff if that makes you feel good but no one in their right mind would knowingly "contravene". I most certainly am in my right mind.

The fact is I obviously needed to turn right but definitely would not have risked a fine if I had seen the sign. I'm not into donating my hard earned money to greedy councils. 

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On 04/12/2019 at 20:28, joyjoyjoy said:

The bailiffs will be let off the leash on 10 December unless I put in an appeal. The email from Nottingham court says I  need to have the forms witnessed at a county court. A solicitor would be more convenient. 

 

Incorrect advice I'm afraid.

In most cases, the forms are witnessed by a solicitor. A fee of £5 is charged. 

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