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    • You're like, super helpful and unhelpful at the same time lol.   What do I search for, I searched form 4, and nothing, I searched claiming compensation and nothing about this.   I can't find the top squares logo.   Can you post a link or tell me what to search.   Sorry if I'm slow.
    • use our custom google search box  click our top squares logo it should appear on that page   dx
    • Apologies, I haven't used a forum for years!!   I defo wish to keep the 2 issues separate, sorry!   My only issue I need help with is the increased compo for marstons - if possible.   I don't know anything about claiming compo etc. (I only recently found out one of the NHS biggest costs are NDA payouts)   I don't know what form 4 is; so far, they've offered £250 and I haven't accepted or denied it.   So yeah, can you forward me to some more info?   Also, usually I'm good at google etc. but I can't find many stories on this stuff, regarding PCN/TFL etc.   Thanks again!
    • ok things are getting clearer...   I've merged 2 of your posts for clarity and removed the swearing, (behave please) I've also taken down the two images you posted should you wish to post things up please use PDF so we can zoom easily and don't forget to redect them read upload carefully.   I think you need to continue to keep the two thing sep. those being increased compo for marstons- if possible ( if you are raising a form 4? complaint through the court - it might be better you don't? - they are very hard to justify and can be costly - so the fact it might not be moving forward could be a good thing, but listen to others here too) and the issue of the PCN wasn't justified - which you need to further expand on please.   the more info you post up the better please but please use multipage PDF files only and carefully redact them    
    • Thanks for trying btw! It's kinda in 2 parts.   1 is that the PCN wasn't justified in the first place and I wasn't aware it had escalated. I received the initial fine from TFL which I challenged and heard nothing back from (for 5 months). Then another letter from a separate PCN which made me email TFL to inquire what was going on but again, heard nothing back.   (BTW I can see how confusing this is so thanks again for trying)   So, I had no idea my car was at the risk of being taken - that's the first part.   No 2. is:   I got a phone call saying my car was on the back of a truck round the corner from mine (they hadn't left any notices or anything, and the car was parked directly outside my house). My friend said they were attaching the straps and securing it to the van (so I think they got it on the back of the van and moved it before securing it).   When I ran round the corner I saw the EA's van. I went upto it and asked what was going on. He was rude and told me to go away. Then after I kept knocking he got out the van and was aggressive and refused to ID himself or tell me why he had my car.   He shouted at me, was rude and unprofessional, he then left with my car. I complained to Marstons and asked for the bodycam footage.   They gave me the footage but it was clearly edited and cut short (because in the beginning of the footage he was the most aggressive).   They then told me he wasn't required to have the camera turned on when he's in the van, only when he's 'actively pursuing a warrant' and I was only allowed the footage I was in. (which is 2 different things) So I asked them to clarify which is true.   Anyway, I reviewed the footage and sent in my complaint (talking about what happened in the footage) They replied and said they watched the footage and disagreed with everything I said.   So I wrote a more in depth response with the CIVEA code to reference + the TFL EA guide etc.    Then they asked for more time, called me and finally apologised and admitted he had acted untoward and was in the wrong.   They then offered me the goodwill payment.   This has taken up weeks of my time, caused me serious trauma and PTSD and even after I complained WITH video evidence, they still initially denied it which means they officially lied, on record, while representing TFL.   I told TFL what was happening they said I had to continue with Marstons etc.   £250 goodwill isn't enough, the car cost £800 to get out, the suspension is messed up and I'd like to claim compensation for everything.   I don't know if that makes me sound like i'm money grabbing or whatever but they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.   The police had to come before they could call an ambulance cause I was having a panic attack and it was a HORRIBLE experience.    So any help would be great please    I have the whole file from Resolver in a ZIP file but it's a lot of writing and I think you've read enough of my writing to last a life time!   I did a statutory declaration of OOT, got it signed by the court etc. but it was rejected.   I then tried to take them to court but it cost £250 I think which I don't have. You can get it for free if your low income but they wanted bank statements that I couldn't get. They're waiting for me to reply with documents to get a free court date.    did you receive any of the pcn's - was that why you appealed? - Yes, sorry!   unless it's trying secure a greater level of compo from marstons? - Yes, sorry!   For the record I just saw this pop up, read it and now feel much less guilty about my enquiry!
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VCS PCN Claimform - No Stopping - Southend Airport

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Ah I see, no worries.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, the whole DCA industry would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Yeah, I found one that does. Just have to reword it slightly.

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just post it up so we can give it the once over, doesn't have to be polite, at all Simple Simon needs a good verbal  tolchocking for sure.


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and also make sure you understand what you are saying and why.

a copy and paste response if not understood why you are sending it, can be very damaging, should it later be questioned in court.

 

 


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, the whole DCA industry would collapse overnight.

 

 

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I found this response by Ericsbrother: 

 

"Unfortunately for you I wasn’t born yesterday so I won’t be paying the demand to you, as you know what I know and that there is no liability in this matter because the land is covered by its own byelaws, The signage is prohibitive and not an offer of a contract so none has been breached and anyway the POFA limits any charge to the specified sum so your demand for £160 is just a nonsense.

 

As VCS has been spanked at court on this very same thing several times before I suggest that you discontinue this foolishness and that way you will at least obey the SRA rules of conduct and obey Civil Procedure as well. I know that may well be a first for you but call it your new year's resolution.

 

Should you decide to continue then I shall be asking for a full costs recovery order for unreasonable behaviour and then seek damages for breach of the DPA as per VCS v Philip, Liverpool CC Dec 2016.

 

Even Will and John, the parking worlds’ worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf."

 

I think it covers my case pretty well. Do you think there is anything I should add? 

 

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That was to bw legal

so removed the extra

you are writing directly to simple


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Ah okay yeah, so I'll just remove the last sentence and then it's good to send off?

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I got a claim form from "Money Claims Online". 

Is it an official court document or should I ignore it?

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It sounds official. Please let us have the information requested in the forum sticky so we can advise you further.

 

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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urm its says northants bulk clearing court large brown a4 windowed envelope.

they are not fake.

 

dx

 


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Name of the Claimant ? VCS/Simon Renshaw-Smith

claimants Solicitors: 

 

Date of issue – 20 Feb 2020 

 

What is the claim for –

 

1.The claim is for breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land.

 

2.The defendants vehicle reg xxxxx was identified in Southend Airport on the 12/10/2019 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited. 


What is the value of the claim?  £185

 

Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ? The claim was issued by a private parking company 

 

I've read another thread which is ahead of mine slightly in the process, I've done an AOS on the MCOL site.

 

Now I need to send off a CPR 31.14 request and submit a defence, right?

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Spot on!

 

The defence isn't need straight away though.


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the defence for all airports and harbours will be the same

lack of authority to make a claim as byelaws apply.

  not "relevant land" POFA doesnt apply so no keeper liability can be created.

signage is prohibitive   so not a genuine offer of a parking contract ( dotn forget, you have to stop to be able to read and consider the offer on the sign!)

claim is vex as parking co know that their claim is an unlawful penalty as they have lost them all before at JLA for same reason

 

 

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Thanks for that info ericsbrother.

I've got the CPR 31.14 request template ready. Can someone check it over and make sure it is ok to send off please?

 

My Address

My Address

My Address

My Address

 

Vehicle Control Services Limited

2 Europa Court

Sheffield Business Park

Sheffield

S9 1XE

 

 

 

(template removed - dx)

 

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Are you sure it is Simple Simon suing you?  It's much more likely to be VCS.


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On the claim form it's got VCS as the claimant on the top left, but at the bottom it's signed by simple and says claimant in brackets, so i wasn't sure.

But yeah i think it is VCS

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53 minutes ago, Jason MS said:

Thanks for that info ericsbrother.

I've got the CPR 31.14 request template ready. Can someone check it over and make sure it is ok to send off please?

 

My Address

My Address

My Address

My Address

 

Vehicle Control Services Limited

2 Europa Court

Sheffield Business Park

Sheffield

S9 1XE

 

 

 

( template removed - dx)

 

 

 

and what does it say in red at the top...……….


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Oh, sorry. 

Is it ok to send?

 

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why do you keep posting up a copy of our template?

 

all you need to do is add address details to/from and the claim number.

the rest is left alone

so I don't know why you think we need to approve you sending it...….


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, the whole DCA industry would collapse overnight.

 

 

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I just wanted someone to check over the template to make sure I hadn't made any mistakes in who i was sending to. Is that OK? 

Turns out I had made a mistake as FTMDave pointed, so that's why I wanted someone to check it.

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Jason, I've edited your post to keep it relevant to the matter in hand.

 

HB


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Hey, so i'm submitting the defence.

I've got two points:

 

1) The land is covered by its own byelaws so not "relevant land" under the POFA and that the byelaws create a supremacy of contract over VCS signage so no liability created,

 

2) The signage is prohibitive in nature and not a genuine offer of  a contract for consideration.

 

Should I mention my reason for stopping briefly outside the arrival terminal was to assist my disabled father?

 

Thanks

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omit the supremacy of contract, and replace with VCS has no Locus Standi, (basically no legal right ) to claim a prohibited act is a parking Event.  Just  hang fire until a couple more of the regulars have had a peek at it.


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Okay thank you, will do.

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