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Hi there,

 

I just wanted to seek some advice

 

I've been sent a "Parking Charge Notice" for temporarily stopping outside the arrivals terminal at Southend Airport to pick up my disabled father, and now they want £60 off of me.

 

I've appealed, which, as I expected, did nothing. 

 

Should I just let the case go to court, as i feel I have a good defence.

 

My Father is disabled due to the fact that he suffers from Peripheral Arterial Disease and Spinal Stenosis and can only walk short distances before his legs begin to seize up and turn to lead. This is why I had to temporarily stop for a short period outside the terminal. It was a cold, dark evening, pouring with rain, I didn't see any signs. My only concern was getting my Mother and Disabled Father out of the cold weather, into the car and off home.'

 

Any help appreciated,

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Could you copy and paste the questions from the forum sticky together with your answers onto this thread please, it will help us to advise you.

 

Best, HB

 


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Hi there,

 

Thanks for your response.

I've filled out the questions below:

 

1 Date of the infringement: 12/10/2019

 

2 Date on the NTK: 19/10/2019

 

3 Date received: 21/10/2019

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? Yes

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? Yes

 

The defence of my appeal: 

My Father is disabled due to the fact that he suffers from Peripheral Arterial Disease and Spinal Stenosis and can only walk short distances before his legs begin to seize up and turn to lead.

 

This is why I had to temporarily stop for a short period outside the terminal.

 

It was a cold, dark evening, pouring with rain, I didn't see any signs.

 

My only concern was getting my Mother and Disabled Father out of the cold weather, into the car and off home.'

 

Have you had a response? Yes

 

Their response was basically that they don't accept it.

 

7 Who is the parking company? Vehicle Control Services

 

8. Where exactly: Southend Airport Arrival Terminal

 

It says they're with the IPC.

 

 

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use our search top right

 

no stopping

 

there are over 150 threads here regarding these no stopping speculative invoices

the land is covered by byelaws which over rule any stupid junk tickets from these companies through the post.

 

scan up the ntk/pcn to one multipage PDF

read upload

 

shame you appealed as you've now identified you were the driver

never appeal!!

 

await/if they send a letter of claim now.

 

dx

 

 


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Unfortunately i don't have the means to upload the letter. 

I have read on another thread that the bylaws will not allow them to take me to court anyway?

I don't how true that is though?

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Have you read the upload guide, Jason? [Click on the word.] It should have instructions for phones if that's what you have.

 

HB


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I know how to do it, i just don't have a scanner handy unfortunately.

I just want to know whether to ignore them or not?

If the bylaws won't let it go to court then I should just ignore their empty threats, no?

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You don't need a scanner, the guide tells you how to use a phone to post up documents.

 

HB


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can't do it by phone either lol.

My phones on the blink at the moment, need a new one.

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15 minutes ago, Jason MS said:

I know how to do it, i just don't have a scanner handy unfortunately.

I just want to know whether to ignore them or not?

If the bylaws won't let it go to court then I should just ignore their empty threats, no?

 

OK, we'll give up on having an image. Ignore unless you receive a letter headed Letter Before Claim/Action.

 

HB


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Okay I'll keep flicking through them.

I've dealt with Private Parking Companies before, but only for those micky mouse charges you get for overstaying at Tesco's; never paid them a penny.

Although, this one I'm concerned about as it's an airport, but they still go by similar bs.

I don't know, I'll have to see how it plays out.

 

Thanks for the help so far anyways

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byelaws are in place

 

that means if it goes anywhere near a court it would be the gov't that gets any money and not a county court either

 

a private parking company cant issue a ticket under the byelaws as that would be a fine and they cant fine you

they hope mugs don't know this and get fleeced as do 1000's everyday.

nice little earner for simon Renshaw-smith.

 

if you beaten Tesco capark fleecers since 2012 then this will be easy...


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good to know!

I'll let them play the empty threat game for a while and let you know how it goes 

Thanks

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When a lettter of Claim does come reply with an acidic letter mentioning that as Byelaes apply they VCS have no Locus Standi to ask for a bean, ericsbrother is the expert with those sort of letters so search CAG for some of his  replies.


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Hey guys,

 

I got a "Letter before claim,"  does anyone have a good template letter I can send to the sc um?

 

Thanks

Edited by Jason MS

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Post 4

Use the search there

 

you should have already been prepared..


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Only takes a minute to find, copy and paste a template, but okay...

Do I have to send it to anyone in particular or do I just send it to their main postal address? 

 

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Look around no locus standi to ground claim, as is a prohibition, not parking event, and Byelaws are in place, as is prohibition a contract cannot be formed with the keeper and VCS

Look for some of ericsbrother's letters addressed to Simple Simon.


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Okay, thank you.

 

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That was a very quick threat of Court. They usually send out several debt collector letters first. Could you please post up the letter of claim showing who sent it. The no stopping signs are  TRO's  over which parking companies have no jurisdiction and certainly cannot even ask for money trom you. To.tal crooks

 

 

 

 

 

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Please don't post jpegs direct to the thread use the upload guide to convert to pdf, anyone can see a jpeg. had to remove the image


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Thanks Jason, pdf allows us to zoom and read it more clearly, also a random viewer who isn't a Cagger and logged in cannot see it.


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