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tailgated with expired ticket - what will happen to me?

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I have been very stupid

had a complete meltdown recently

no idea why I have done this, 

 

to explain simply,

I have tailgated on a weekly ticket I had that had expired the day before and forgot .

then what makes things far worse is that this was starting from a station further in that I have been using for six weeks which I owned up to and gave the se inspector three weeks of tickets that i had to sign ,

 

I was cautioned, and given an mg11,

I have never had one of these before and never had a conviction before in my lifetime.

 

now over 50 years of age.  

very worried how much trouble am I in,

 

I have paid over £1000 in correct train fares this year.

will that help my case ,

what is the worse case scenario ...

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if they send you a letter comeback to this thread and tell us

until then there is little point in worrying about spilt milk.

 

so this is a one off?, you tailgated.?

 

whats this about one further station before your normal departure ?

nothing to do with multiple offences you coughed up to?

 

your story is a bit confusing.

 

dx

 


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Thank you for reply,  only tailgated once ,

 

he asked where I came from and he then realised it was from a different station to my home one ,

then I admitted I had done this over a six week period buying weekly tickets ,

I gave him the 3 I had in my wallet  , 

 

I told him everything and signed tickets and the mg11 so completely guilty ,

 

fares I  owed  think would be about 160 pounds is worse case scenario prosecution for this and a large fine ,

have never been to court before and very worried 

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so two types of 'offence'

 

one - an incident of tail gating

two - a period of 6 weeks whereby you have admited you used tickets purchased from a station one stop nearer than the station used.

they cant prosecute other than the tickets supplied, they have no actual proof.

 

await the letter.

 

 


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So could this potentially be prosecuted for both offences with the mg11 under two different convictions ?

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wouldn't thing so. 

I don't think we've seen this happen here.

 

await the letter.

 


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Spoke to a solicitor who said in cases like this where it's more than once,  it gets passed over and investigated by the serious fraud team, is this correct ?

 

what is the worst that can happen , very worried about a conviction , is a custodial sentence also possible ?

 

Should I instruct a solicitor ?

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Hi.

 

I wonder if the lawyer is overthinking this. From what we've seen, a one-off offence wouldn't be serious fraud and I don't see prison being an option.

 

We don't normally recommend getting a lawyer because most of them don't know a lot about ticket offences.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Thank you,  am very impressed at how fast the responses are here from you  !

 

is the worst case scenario for me a single rora conviction if no ooc settlement ...

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dx and I aren't railway professionals, I don't think we can second guess which laws or rules they might use. We see byelaw cases as well.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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which is enforced using ref to their byelaws and the ones they consider you violated ...as I eluded too earlier

 

you will in all likelihood be only prosecuted for the one offence 

but

if you have read like threads here as advised earlier too

you will probably have spotted the term:  TIC [taken into consideration]

 

they will play a part too

but we cant ever 2nd guess what the charge{s} might be should this proceed to a court claim or a single justice hearing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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