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Britannia Parking- Parking Charge Notice- Waitrose Car Park - ** CANCELLED VIA WAITROSE **

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Have received  this attached...have had similar in the past and asked the Waitrose store manager to cancel and this has been successful.

 

It seems they have a new system in place as photos of arrival and departure have been included and the reverse of this page, I just chose not to include. Is not necessary right now

 

Any other ideas?

 

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Upload shows pcnno.

 

Please complete our sticky too

As your last pcn.

 

 


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1. you already know the answer to your question, if you were a shopper you get john Lewis Partnership to cancel the ticket. Now I can understand them if they get shirty because parking in green run brighton costs more than I earn an hour so waitrose car aprk will be an attractive place.

2 you have left your details visible for the whole world to see

 

Come on, you are not new here so pay attention to the details.

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removed again pcn number still showing

 

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Hi all spoken to the waitrose manager and he has said he is not prepared to get the ticket cancelled...so yeah now I am in a bit of a pickle....any suggestions how I can deal with britannia as now it has past 14 days so its £100 and not the original £50.

 

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Need more info - as per post #2

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please complete this:

 

 

and forget any unlawful timelimits that add unicorn food tax on.

 

get reading up too!!

 

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Escalate to CEO level https://www.ceoemail.com/s.php?id=ceo-9152

 

And get back to the Waitrose branch manager to say you're going to return the goods you bought as you weren't told about this £100 surcharge.

 

Plus complete the sticky, it's difficult to resolve a case if we don't know what happened.

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make sure that the CEO knows that you intend to return the goods as wella nd suggest that they might like to be included in the interviews with the local news people.

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finally uploading the PCN, with penalty charge number removed

 

 

On 19/11/2019 at 10:46, billybobyeeharrboy said:

Hi all spoken to the waitrose manager and he has said he is not prepared to get the ticket cancelled...so yeah now I am in a bit of a pickle....any suggestions how I can deal with britannia as now it has past 14 days so its £100 and not the original £50.

 

 

I should probably add that I don't have a receipt or bank statement to prove that I bought anything from the store!

 

Sorry EB, my bad

 

 

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where does it say its a penalty charge notice please?

 


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Hi there yes confusing it is a PARKING charge notice....I don't believe there is any mention of penalty charge notice...

 

And your point being?

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Top of post 10..

As long as you know the diff..be sure you do.

 

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oops My bad, for clarity sake would you mind explaining the difference and will do sticky now!

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A penalty charge notice is a parking ticket issued by police/council - a legal fine. Which can be enforced by a magistrates court and is a criminal matter

 

Any other words that make up PCN like parking charge notice

..are a speculative invoice issued by a private parking company

 

...for breaking some mythical contract you entered into by driving in and parking upon someone elses private land,

 

....that the PPC

may have a valid contract with

may have attained planning permission for their advert signs and cameras .

 

it is Not a fine.

 

as this is a civil contract matter for money & not actually directly related to any parking matter.

it can result in a civil county court money claim - a ccj. Which is not a criminal matter.

 


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BB, here's the government website on penalty charge notices.

 

https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets

 

AIUI, parking companies wanted to sound official and so adopted 'parking charge notices' to confuse people. Some of the ones we've seen look official, which is intentional of course.

 

HB


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For Parking Charge Notice received through the post [ANPR camera capture] 

 

1 Date of the infringement-01 November 2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

- I have not received a notice to keeper

- only a parking charge notice, which is dated 06 November 2019.

 

3 Date received- unsure, but around 07 November 2019.

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? No

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes- There are two photos- I am assuming in and out of the car park

 

6 Have you appealed? No, I have not appealed Have you had a response? N

 

7 Who is the parking company?- Britannia Parking 

 

8. Where exactly- Waitrose Car park, Western Road Brighton

 

which appeals body they operate under- IAS

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ok quick update have emailed Mr Rob Collins    , Managing Director at Waitrose to see if he can work his magic.

 

Regards 

 

BB

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That was quick! Well done billybob and the advisers. :)  I'll alter your thread title.

 

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Great stuff a good result;   its time for these compasnies to look at the way the Parking Cowboys are impacting their trade, with mneagre time limits designed to trap people, 1 hour is insufficient in many large supermarkets with a cafe, 90 minutes is also too short to shop and have a bite in the instore cafe. all cannon fodder for the rapacious PPC.

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When possible thsi route one attack method works best. the trick is to not delay in contacting the retailer/landowner and to throw your stone high enough up the tree to hit the right target.

Well done for your success.

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Well done 👏

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Keep the evidence from Waitrose CEO to say it's been cancelled as the PPC may still try to enforce collection.

 

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