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VCS PCN Claimform - no stopping Southend Airport

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please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 30/09/2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 07/10/2019

 

3 Date received 10/10/2019

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] N

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

 

7 Who is the parking company? Vehicle Control Services Limited 

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] no car park- it was road before zebra crossing at airport Southend. 

 

They operate and member with International Parking Community (IPC)  www.theIPC.info

 

Hi Guys

 

it look like I’m another person who’s being ripped off by those guys. 

 

I received PCN from VCS ltd. 46 Stopping in a zone that is prohibited.

Guy who is driving my taxi stopped on the road in front of zebra crossing, at Southend airport  

 

On the picture there is door opened and people walking across the zebra crossing and I as it look like someone is getting in to the car.

 

And same story there is contravention time but not how long was it stopping I assume it was few sec as he is on the road so no parking obviously and it on the letter it says it’s a (NTK) notice to keeper.

 

What should I do ? 

I uploaded the photo (blanked the address and pcn number 

regards 

 

Southend Airpirt PCN from VCS.pdf

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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Surely  County Court Judges are going to pick up on VCS and airport RobOclaims soon.


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depends who the judge plays golf with....

 

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Good morning 

thank you for the link there is many stoping, parking etc it’s very confusing all those people wanna do they own way respond, reveal the driver etc, so far I understand and I do listen to your experts I could say this would be the way to do it “ 

 

Now that you know they cannot beat you in Court all you have to do is to  ignore all of their letters, threats and unregulated  debt collectors.

 

The best response is to  ignore every piece of communication from them and their scummy side kicks.

 

The only time to react is if you receive a  letter of Claim from them then let us know and we will give a rude letter for them and that should make them realise that after all the time and money they have spent chasing you was all for nothing” , 

 

The only unclear for me is if stopping in front of zebra would be classified as private land or the Boroughs roads? 

I would greatly appreciate your help 

Eric 

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If it is a zebra crossing with belisha beacons etc then it is a borough maintained road.

As such and especially if it was a taxi that is even permitted to drop off passengers on red lines you have nothing to worry about.

 

VCS do not control that part of the Airport at all.

You only stopped for less that the 10 minute grace period that VCS must give motorists and no contract can be formed between a motorist and a sign that is prohibitive.I am waiting for those numpties to issue a PCN to someone stopping at the zebra or is one supposed to knock the people over on the crossing  to avoid a ticket. 

 

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Probably won't have to wait too long for someone to be invoiced by VCS for stopping at a zebra for sure.


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its airport land 

airport byelaws.

 

dx


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So you saying dx100uk that they have the right to fine me (my driver) for stopping Meyer in front of zebra crossing for like 30sec just because it’s they land ? 

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no 

and its NOT A FINE!!

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Thank you dx100uk I will wait out till (and if) i get anything  from court then will return her for further advice.

 

Thank you again

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no

a letter of claim or

a letter of/before action.

 

dx

 

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Hello again 

I did as you guys advised me to do, I’ve been ignoring all they letters until now.

I just received a claim form from Vehicle control services and I would like to ask you for a further help. 

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so you ignored the VCS letter of claim then?

 

dx

 


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follow the instructions in this sticky

 

 


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9 hours ago, dx100uk said:

so you ignored the VCS letter of claim then?

 

dx

 

I ignored all letters like you advised me before, including NTK and Final demand (all in red ) The VCS was sending NTK (notiere to keeper) not the letter of claim. The letter of claim just arrived (Claim form) but to be honest it look like they fabricated it to look like it’s from a court but I’m sure it isn’t a real court claim form. 

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you must of had a letter of claim from VCS, simple simon doesn't normally slip up.

 

the claimform came from northants bulk court in a large windowed a4 brown envelope ….not from VCS.

so how can it be fake.

 

get the link done.

 

dx

 


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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The Claimforms do look doddgy and photocopied from Northhampton Bulk CC Clearing centre, they process thousands daily, Do asDX says don't wate time, Simple Simon depends on people dithering so he gets a default judgment, on his dodgy claims.


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Name of the Claimant ? VCS

claimants Solicitors: 

 

Date of issue – 14 Feb 2020 

 

What is the claim for –

 

1.The claim iss for breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land.

 

2.The defendants vehicle reg xxxxx was identified in Southend Airport on the 30/09/2019 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited. 


What is the value of the claim? £185 

 

Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ?

The claim was issued by a private parking company 

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment?

No there is no notice of assignment. 

 

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don't think simon is the claimant? but VCS?


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Yes A-S-G, could you please clarify who is suing you?

 

This is the second thread in a week where Simon has been named as the claimant, surely he can't have been so stupid as to put himself personally down as the claimant.


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Yes you are right it is VCS Simon is only authorised by the claimant.

You have been dealing with those kind of stuff all the time for me

it’s first time and believe me this language it’s not easy to understand when you read this while you overwhelmed by the jargon and a court notice.

 

That’s the reason I’m seeking help by professionals like you guys here.

 

I really appreciate Your help dx 

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Yes, it's not nice to get court papers, but people like Dx & EB have been battling these fleecers for years and know what they're doing.  When you have time do a search for & read other VCS airport threads, you'll get a good idea of what will happen next and how to see off Simple Simon.


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17 minutes ago, Anti-System-Guy said:

Simon is only authorised by the claimant.

 

expand this comment....where's it come from?

 

dx

 


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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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at the bottom of the Claim form it says 

“The claimant believes the facts stated in this claim form are true and I am duly authorised by the claimant to sign this statement.” 
signed Simon Renshaw-Smith 

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