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Taking Rent2Buy your car to court - agreement unenforceable***Claim Struck Out***


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If the Hirer does not keep their side of this agreement but has paid at least one third of the total amount payable under this

agreement, that is £2,240.00 the creditor (r2byc) may not take back the Vehicle against the Hirers wishes unless he gets a

court order. (In Scotland he may need to get a court order at any time.) If r2byc does take the Vehicle without the Hirers

consent or a court order, the Hirer has the right to get back any money that they have paid under this agreement.

 

Coincidentally you have paid that amount exactly so becomes protected goods...so you either come to an agreement with regards to the arrears with the claimant or you could apply for a time order although they have in effect terminated the agreement and see if they progress to a return of goods order...which is unlikely...or you accept the the claim and CCJ for the arrears.

 

Im not sure how that could be worded as a defence or is a valid defence.

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What are your aims here?

 

Do you wish to keep the car and are you in a financial position to do so?

 

Would you be able to make a satisfactory offer for a time order?

 

The agreement is of course non compliant with both s99/100 cca1974 and the 2010 cca regulations

 

They cannot make up your termination rights

Under s99 you can terminate from day one of the agreement

 

However they have terminated a non compliant agreement

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go ring the court

have they paid the fee?

 

opps to late today its passed 4pm...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you have two lines of defence

 

the agreement is null and void as above..thus you are entitled to keep the car and get all you payments back?

 

the outstanding sums are penalties unlawfully levied ?

 

if either of those can be used here is another matter but as its the company that's taking you to court IMHO both are valid...

 

thoughts anyone?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No...just concentrate on the defence for now.

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You could just put that...but it wouldnt be CPR compliant...what would you state if the judge asks are you in arrears do you owe this amount ?

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Defence ....Check for accuracy and edit if necessary.

 

 

Bailey Defence..pdf

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try now

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

 

So the claim against me has been thrown out as they didn't pay the listing fee - please see this thread 

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/410847-rent2buyyourcarcom-claimform-arrears-on-terminated-car-finance/#comments

 

I am now wanting to start a claim to get back all money I paid out on the unenforceable agreement I entered into with them. 

 

Any help with wording of the claim would be much appreciated.

 

A copy of the original agreement can be seen on the original thread.

 

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Well done Bailey

 

Andy

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he wants all his moneyback thus wanting to take them to court for an unenforceable agreement now this claim failed.

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not sure that a struck out claim means theres now a reason for a voided agreement under the CCA mind now though?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Who said its unenforceable ?

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Me, old rouge and yourself in defence point 5?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So it is......:wink: ...but has yet to be determined by a Judge...who would no doubt decide that  Bailey had the use of the vehicle  during the term of the agreement and therefore benefited.

 

Too risky....I would be happy with this result and leave it at that. 

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