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I have NOT moved yet. It isn't even imminent.

 

So I'm being advised to tell the current DCA IF I change my address?

 

For all the latest DCA know I could have move house a year ago and how would they know? If they are going to do  a backdoor CCJ because I move house how are they going to know if I don't tell them?

 

If I move our mail will be forwarded regardsless.

 

But I hear what you guys are saying. If they cannot contact us and they do sent a letter before action to us, we need to know. Otherwise a CCJ could be brought against us without our knowledge.

 

Am I on the right thinking?

 

 

 

 

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No Court Papers are not redirected Royal Fail return to sender like Elvis's lost love.. They then go for a nice easy default.

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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hobnail

are you understanding my comment about other consumer debt properly?

 

as opposed to what this thread is about a speculative invoice.. 2 dif things completely.

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Okay I see.

 

That being said then I MUST inform them IF I move house.

 

So a registered/ signed for letter with proof of posting to the lastest DCA will do the job before we move house.

 

I take it shoud be signed by my other half who had the "fine" from the airport.

 

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Never waste your time writing to dcas it only gives them ideas way above their rank- which is still well below a dog turd mind you.

But the keeper should 

 write to VCS who will then inform the lesser human beings that work for them.We are talking at amoeba levels now and that was just for VCS.

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doesn't need to be registered just 2nd class with free proof of posting from any po counter, simply referring to their ref number giving your new address.

 

now debts on your credit file? have you any?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well done

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I count approximately 10 letters in this thread demanding payment with no court claim issued.

 

Has it ever been discussed whether or not to send a cease and desist thus laying the ground work for a claim for harassment. I.e. put up or shut up...

Perhaps this is not advised so as not to bait the claim.

 

I wonder whether the fact the demands for payment come from different "companies" each time is by design in order to circumvent any cease and desist request, and whether this would actually be effective in doing so.

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Hello me again,

 

It would seem to me they have now escalated my partners "fine" to the next level. Witha letter before claim from ELM Legal arriving today 27th Sept.

 

See attachments.

 

As it's from a legal firm and stating extra "costs", is now the time to contact and send them a rebuttal letter?

 

I did notice the letter is dated 24/9/21 arriving 27/9/21 but claiming payment must be received before 23/9/21!!

 

Is this a scare tactic?

 

Looks like to me anyway I need to answer this letter.

 

Thanks in advance.

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simply reply with one of our snotty letters.

there are 100's of elms/vcs airport ones in relevant threads

 

use our enhanced google search box

 

have a go post it up we'll check it.

 

they cant dictate payment 'times' they must give 30days for a reply anyway before/if they with to issue a court claim via northants bulk.

 

dont think they've won one john lennon case if it ever happens and IF (ESSENTIAL) its defended properly following our FREE advice.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I was about to post to ridicule them in the snotty letter stating that you don't have access to a TARDIS, but thinking about it, er, no.

 

Their mistake means they haven't respected PAPLOC and if they do do court you can bring up that you received a Letter Before Claim demanding you pay before the posting date of the letter.

 

Yep, as dx says, search for a snotty letter and post a draft up.

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My Road
My Town
My County
My Postcode

Date xx xx xx
 

Your Reference No. xxxxxxx

Dear Elms Legal,

 

With regards your letter date 24/7/21.


Thanks for the letter before claim. So you seem to think I owe you money?


I had a great laugh at the idea you actually thought I'd take such nonsense seriously and pay you my hard earned cash.


You see I know that your claim has no basis in law whatsoever.

Also your attempt at messing with the dates on the letter – dating it 24th Sept but saying I have to pay before the 23/9/21 is hilarious. I don't have the ability to time travel.

It's an obvious scare tack tick or the junior you got to write the letter is thick as two short planks!

So seeing as you now know that I know this, you have two options really.

Your can either drop this hopeless case or we will go to court where I will embarrass you and also go for unreasonably high costs.

It will be easy money for Christmas for the family and me.

Full Name.

 

DO I SIGN?

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Good - and fast - work!

 

Cut out the bit about time travel though, I know it was me who suggested it, but on second thoughts the fact they haven't complied with PAPLOC could be used against them in the future, best not to let on as they may then send you a fresh, decent Letter before Claim.

 

It's "go for an unreasonable costs order".

 

Write at the bottom COPIED TO SIMPLE SIMON, VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES LTD

 

If none of the other regulars have comments, invest in two 2nd class stamps tomorrow and get two free Certificates of Posting from the post office.

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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My Road
My Town
My County
My Postcode

Date xx xx xx
 

Your Reference No. xxxxxxx

Dear Elms Legal,

 

With regards your letter date 24/7/21.


Thanks for the letter before claim. So you seem to think I owe you money?


I had a great laugh at the idea you actually thought I'd take such nonsense seriously and pay you my hard earned money.


You see I know that your claim has no basis in law whatsoever.

 

 

So seeing as you now know that I know this you have two options really. Your can either drop this hopeless case or we will go to court where I will embarrass you and also go for an unreasonable costs order.

 

It will be easy money for Christmas for the family and me.

Full Name.

 

DO I SIGN?

 

COPIED TO SIMPLE SIMON, VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES LTD

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God no pc print

 

good work let it be checked

 

DX ....ftm is our master

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes.

 

The letter you've prepared is excellent.

 

Just send it with your full name but no signature.

 

Get the two CoPs.

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Hobnail you don't know Elms too well yet.

 

I am surprised that they got as close as they did to adding up to 30. I think the poor dears get confused because most other letters they send out are to give 28 days notice.

 

They even  have difficulty with their two times table and often consult with the char lady to confirm that 2 plus 2 equals 4.  Just act on the notion that they are total numpties and you won't be far out.

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Hello people.

 

I have now received two letters this week.

 

One from VCS ltd that basically says Elms Legal are dealing with it.

 

The other is from ELMs legal and it looks like they are going to take us to court!

 

They are saying "As advised legal
proceedings are due to start from 30/10/21"

 

It didn't say anything about this date in any previous letter. Is this just more BS and scare tactics then?

 

Didn't think it would get this far.

 

What is my next move?

 

My other half getting a bit worried as it's in her name and she's not up for court.

 

Cheers

 

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It may be another scare tactic, but it's just as likely they mean it as VCS are the most litigious of the PPCs.

 

Anyway, yours is not the next move, you've told them to do their worst, you'll see in November if they have the gonads to go ahead and do court.

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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