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Hobnail

VCS PCN - no stopping - spycar CCTV - Liverpool Airport "offence"

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Hi Guys

 

Started a new thread on this as there are quite a few on here already that I have read.

 

Would be greatful for any advice on this.

 

My partner has received a PCN from VCS Ltd saying that she owes them £100 for stopping on red lines. Or only £60 within 14 days of the issue date.

 

She wanted to just pay it and I said no chance. So I'm gonna fight it on her behalf. I have had no contact with VCS and after reading other threads will be ignoring any letters until there is a letter from a solicitor regarding a court summons.

 

Is this the correct procedure at this point?

 

Cheers

hobnail

 

 

 

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cross T and dot I first please

 

 

answer the above q's back here 1st

and scan both sides of the NTD/NTK up here as ONE multipage pdf please

 

read upload

 

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For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement - 30/8/19

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] - 6/9/19

 

3 Date received - 12/9/19

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] - NO

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? - YES

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] - NO

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up - N/A

 

7 Who is the parking company? - Vehicle Control Services Ltd

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] - Liverpool JL Airport L24 1YD

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. - looks like IAS

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here - N/A

 

Here is the pdf as requested

 

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front and back of letter

 

 

PCN - Front.pdf

 

back of letterPCN - Letter back.pdf

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thats not an ANPR capture.

its a spy car 

 

no such thing as no stopping

and the byelaws over rule all their stupid unenforceable rules anyway.

 

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Hi.

 

VCS are fairly new to Liverpool airport, but we have a couple of other threads about them that are worth a read.

 

HB


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so all that being said is it same as other threads. Eg, ignore all letters until a solicitor gets involved?

 

cheers again

hobnail

 

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jla john lennon airport Liverpool airport etc etc 

go back past 2014 on these no stopping rubbish here

the situation has never changed

 

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Apologies Hobnail, I was thinking of Southend where VCS are new.

 

HB


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Thats ok honeybee if you a mod I can understand that :)

 

So i'll just ignore until I get a Letter Before Action right?

 

These bastards must really coin it in from people who can't be arsed to fight it or just think its "the law"

 

What a sad world we live in when greed and corruption are the norm.

hobnail

 

 

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Spot on, Hobnail. :)  Had you realised that the private parking companies [PPCs] are ex-clampers? You might view them in a different light knowing that.

 

If memory serves the Parking Prankster website/blog has information about JLA.

 

HB

 

 


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Aye they are scumbags alright.

 

We were late getting to the airport so droped the girlfriend off to check bags in before I went to park the car in prepay carpark.

 

Saw they wanted £3 just to drop off so though I'll just pull over - only took about 60 secs. So they fleece you for £3 or £100 either way they robbing you blind. 😠

 

 

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If you rode a pedal cycle or an e bike with no numberplates up that road and stopped to read the sign, the spy car would follow and the operator try to get your details to give you a charge for stopping.  I phoned and asked VCS, and they confirmed that is what they would do even to a mobility scooter or a  broken down vehicle.  they would likely ticket any Roadside recovery vehicle that came to assist as well.


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So what is a red route and does JLA have the authority to enforce? well, red routes are very specific for both place and purpose and strangely enough not policed by ex clampers on behalf of TfL or other citiers where the scheme is authoried..

 

As already said, JLA has its own byelaws and these trump any contract that VCS may offer and that is all VCS can do is offer for your consideration a PARKING contract. Somehting saying no stopping isnt  an offer to park for you to consider adn either accept or reject. for those reasons VCS dont have a leg to stand on but as they are greedy adn dishonest they wont drop the matter until their bluff is called. For every person who comes here for advice and takes them on another 99 will fall in line and pay up so they keep going after people without lawful reason as it pays them very well.

 

So read the other threads and you will get an idea of what piffle you will get on your doormat before the great minds at VCS send you their lba. This you respond to but no need to waste yout time on anything else. Do not use email to correspond with them under any circumstances

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Cheers everyone for the advice.

 

How long before I can expect the Letter Before Action is sent my way - presumably this will be after several threatening letters to our address with  the "penalty" costs rising every time right?

 

 

 

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Something like that yes, when you do get a LBA, one of ericsbrothers snotty letters is in order letting them know that you know they have no lawful reason to claim even a can of maggots for a non parking incident.


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Hello again,

 

I was wondering how long it would be before I start getting more letters from VCS. Its been over a month now since our first letter.

 

Is it usual for them to take ages to sent further threats of court/increased fines ect.....??

 

Is it wishful thinking that they leave us alone now?

 

Cheers again

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Did you send an ericsbrother style snotty letter?  they might leave you alone until just before Christmas, then get a tame powerless DCA to start sending letters with some spurious charges added to increase the  "(NON) debt" To them its a psychological game, so they will ramp up their threats at the festive season hoping to frighten someone into compliance.  VCS are not honest brokers, and  have no Locus Standi to demand anything where Bye-laws are in force.


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Hi brassnecked

 

No I've ignored them so far. Told to just wait until I get the LBA from them. Just thought it strange I've had no more threats from them since. I was expecting more "fear" thats all.

 

Not that I'm worried tho

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