VCS PCN Claimform - no stopping - spycar CCTV - Liverpool Airport "offence"

[ericsbrother]

VCS dont use solicitors, no-one will take on their work because of the stupidity of its owner so all in house

[Hobnail]

Hi guy thought I would update you all. Got this new letter just before Xmas its not a LBA as far as I can tell but it looks like they have sold the "debt" on to  a new company. Is this a new tactic of VCS Ltd????

 

If so can I just expect more threats thru the post or could I now get the LMA from this new company - Debt Recovery Plus?

 

Cheers again

 

 

DR+ threat-o-gram.pdf

[FTMDave]

Don't worry, they haven't sold the debt on, it's a standard tactic of PPCs to get debt collection companies to send silly threatagrams which mean nothing to try to scare motorists.  Just lie back, relax and continue to ignore such rubbish. 

[Hobnail]

Ok cheers

 

I'm very relaxed about it TBH. I've not contacted with them whatsoever so far. They can sent as many threats as they want I won't be loosing any sleep

 

Edited December 27, 2019 by Hobnail
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[Hobnail]

Quick update to the thread.

 

Had a new letter today. I don't think its the LBA I'm waiting for - just another threat. Please could someone have a look and see if I'm correct on this.

 

Cheers

hobnail

 

dr+ 2nd threat-o-gram.pdf

[honeybee13]

I think it's a threatogram dressed up to look like an LBA/LBC. Please hang on and someone with more knowledge than me will be along to comment.

 

HB

[dx100uk]

its from a DCA ...can't ever be a letter of/before claim.

simple simon at VCS doesn't use solicitors now, they were losing him too many cases ... so it would be direct from VCS

[Hobnail]

Ok cool thought it looked like more rubbish.

 

I'll add it to my collection of threat o'grams and do nothing.

 

Like I said before I've had no contact with them whatsover. Surely they would have to prove who was driving the car anyway (if my partner admitted to it) before they could even think about taking to court?

 

Anyway cheers for the help again. I'll sit back and relax some more

hobnail

 

[dx100uk]

no they don't have to do that.

 

please and i'm not being funny

but you appear not to be bothering to read any threads here and get upto speed.

 

 

[Hobnail]

thought I was up to speed???

 

I'm waiting for a letter before action/court. Then I engage with my one and only letter to them telling them to go swivel cos they have no claim against us right?

 

Would you rather me not post updates? thought it helped the site to do this. Surely people posting updates keeps everyone in the know about these bandits current tactics?

 

hobnail

 

[honeybee13]

Post any queries you have, hobnail. That way you can't do the wrong thing by mistake. We're here to help.

 

It won't go amiss to read some other threads though, so you get an idea of how these companies operate.

 

HB

[Hobnail]

Cheers HB

 

I have read quite a few other threads although it was back in sep/oct when I first found the site. Will try and have a look at a few more time permmiting.

 

not sure what DX's point was.

 

hobnail

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

that they have to prove who was driving before they can even think about going court....not true on many levels.

 

that a DCA can issue a letter of claim on a 'debt' they don't own, they can't...only the PPC can or a solicitor who is representing them - being their client... 

and the speculative invoice debts are never sold on anyway....unlike consumer credit..

 

both show a lack in even understanding the very basic principles in this private parking game, which worries me some.

esp as it's yet to get to the byelaws stage whereby you need to know your onions

[Hobnail]

Latest threat from them came about a week ago.

 

I'm beginging to think the LBA is not going to be forthcoming.

 

 I read earlier in thread that VCS can't get a Solicitor to take it on for them so maybe this is all they can do.

 

Anyway I've attacted latest letter to keep up to date.

 

 

DR+ 3rd threat-o-gram.pdf

[dx100uk]

VCS or simple simon has done claims himself for a good few months now

 

dx

 

[brassnecked]

He is even too toxic for the likes of Gladdys and BW Legal to handle. He is good at cutting his own throat, so get a snotty letter ready  for when he is silly again.

[Hobnail]

Here is the latest "threat" from a new "debt" collector.

 

I guess they try a few letters then pass it on to a new one.

 

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it's funny how the amount is going down everytime they offer us a chance to settle!

 

Still no letter before action though.

Zenith DCA 1st threat-o-gram.pdf

[ericsbrother]

they add the unicorn food tax to scare you into thinking the amount demanded may keep going up so you settle before you have to sell a small country to pay the debt and then they drop it a little bit to make you think that they are beng reasonable with their final offer. It is still above the amount they can lawfully claim from the keeper so still telling you lies to make themselves a few quid they dont deserve

[Hobnail]

Okay here is the latest letter we received yesterday.

 

Although it doesn't say "Letter Before Action" it does state "Notice of intention to commence legal proceedings" is this the same thing????

 

I suspect this is more threat o grams and I can still ignore it as it does not look like any of the LMA letters I have seen on the site.

 

Or if anyone thinks a snotty letter should be sent I could construct one?

 

Cheers

 

 

Zenith - Notice of intention to commence legal proceedings.pdf

[honeybee13]

It looks like a threatogram trying to look like an LBA to me. It only says they're recommending things to their legal department. Let's see if the others agree.

 

HB

[brassnecked]

Think it has to mention 30 days to be a LBA, but Simple Simon isn't someone who adheres to legal niceties, and makes it up as he goes along.

[FTMDave]

It's just toilet paper - ignore.  It's not even from the parking company, just some powerless DCA.

 

Oooh, how scary!  If you don't cough up "this matter will be passed to our legal department" - i.e. the same person signing with a differently coloured pen.

[dx100uk]

they have to abide by the court pre action protocol even if they don't think it applies to them.

and that is also using the correct format for the PAPLOC too.

 

simon is increasingly loosing most cases where byelaws are involved as the word is getting around to not pay any speculative invoices at any of these airport and dockside areas that he under VCS or excel has all these contracts at.

 

he desparately needs a win in court that he can trumpet out as a cover all case victory

 

i even heard the otherday that the 'circuit' of fee chargers on that certain other site that charge upwards of £160 to represent people in court are have even changed tact and are following CAg's examples and are winning...

[Hobnail]

Cheers for the replies.

 

I will carry on relaxing about it all. 

I'm not gonna write any letters unless I have too.

Don't want to spend the cost of a stamp on them.

 

Its discusting that firstly the Airports let VCS have a contract to fleece people and then the DVLA sell peoples details on to him. 

Both are obviously making a nice earner out of it.

 

Our society is rotten to the core when this is going on. 

A people with no morals equals a people that are ultimately enslaved.

It's how the Law of Nature works.

 

 

[BankFodder]

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