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Bailiff Took Payment from a Couple In Their 70's Due To a Lodgers Debt


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sorry I must have mis-read about it being a consumer credit debt...

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry but I was quoted.

 

The bailiff would have been the county court variety, extremely unlikely A court bailiff would behave this way, they are salaried and generally dont give a monkeys if the money is collected or not, are you sure the enforcement was for a consumer credit matter?

 

The lodger would not get a credit card unless he said he had permanent residence, so.

 

I cant understand why your ardour isn't directed at this scoundrel.

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£3k paid on credit card...hce attended ..an HCEO

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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MasterMuggles, could you say what sort of debts they were?  and the Credit card part is that the householder paid the third party debt with the credit card, just to stop any more confusion.  Also  please post back with any further developments.

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2 hours ago, brassnecked said:

MasterMuggles, could you say what sort of debts they were?  and the Credit card part is that the householder paid the third party debt with the credit card, just to stop any more confusion.  Also  please post back with any further developments.

 

The debts were in relation to unpaid legal fees owed by the lodger who had used the property address for correspondence.

 

A third party (being my family) were forced to pay the (now ex) lodgers debt. This payment amounted to over £3,000.

They paid this amount to stop the bailiff taking their own possessions.

They were scared and the bailiff apparently told them people would be there to do so in 30 minutes!

My family made this payment via a credit card.

 

Everything indicates to me this payment was made under duress.

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So the family knew all about the debt?

Just to be clear. The legal fees you mention, were they for a criminal judgement Magistrates or crown court?

There is a good reason for asking

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No, the lodger only disclosed information upon leaving my family's property.

The first they knew of the debt was the bailiff at the door.

 

They were informed the debt was for unpaid legal fee's in relation to the settlement of estate of a family member of the lodger.

The client name on the receipt ties in with this

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Could the lodgers bedroom be taken as his office by the bailiff?

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2 hours ago, Dodgeball said:

Could the lodgers bedroom be taken as his office by the bailiff?

 

As in:

Could the bailiff have taken it as his office?

or

Theoretically could it be taken as his office?

 

It's very simple rented room in a residential house so I'd suspect no to both the above, but very interested to know the angle on this none the less

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I've spoken to the husband this evening who spoke to the bank (Natwest) in question earlier to try to initiate clawing back the payment and they have advised him that they are unable to assist.

They've said that the payment wasn't fraudulent hence they cannot help and also that he (the card holder) was the one who entered the payment.

 

The payment was apparently made on the bailiffs tablet so I presume via the web payments page for the Enforcement agency

 

It's really quite sickening things like this can happen to a couple in their 70's!!!

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Oh god..couldn't have a worse bank to try and do a section 75 with.

natwest have never understood section 75.

They are useless.

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, the credit card company is jointly and severally liable for any breach of contract or misrepresentation by the retailer or trader.You can do a chargeback on the grounds the merchant placed you under duress to coerced you to make payment.

 

Start a section 75 claim and ignore Nastyvest.

 

Andy

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I have just come across this site and thread,

 

I also had this happen to myself and my wife, I am in my 70's and had HCEO's arrived to claim money from my son who does not live with us.

 

The company was also Court Enforcement Services Limited.

Managed to get £4308.11 out of us.

 

I sent a very lengthy complaint to them,

After a month they replied with a fairly short very dismissive reply to all my points,

this followed several letters going back and forth to get "permission" to complain from our son to them..

 

I sent a signed for letter over two weeks ago asking for the bodycam footage from both HCEO's, Gone in to track progress this morning as no reply from them, Letter has "got lost" in post. I believe they are hiding behind a PO Box number.

I am sending a registered request on Monday with a copy to the ICO.

 

looks like I am going to sue the original creditor for duress as they disconnected all our electronics and put them outside.

 

Don't bother to complain to Court Enforcement Services Limited, I believe they and others have had thousands of complaints and I know of none that were successful

 

Good luck with your claim

 

 

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