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3 minutes ago, Monty Putron said:

if no letter of claim

OK will take stock, see where we are with the letters.

 

If I can find that they have gone PAP I will send the pro-forma letter in 5.

 

Will update in morning, I am sure I am missing some mail.

 

What if I don't have a PAp that they've issued?

sit on your hands

 

if you want to help others

scan EVERYTHING you've ever received up to ONE multipage PDF

read upload

 

it would be very useful

and if everyone did this

it would help everyone.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Here we go. ML PAP located. My reasons to dispute are many though, so if I just put no documentation provided as the reason I am not prejudicing anything. Scanning 2 docs into 1 is tricky but will upload asap.

 

 

Here is their FD rec'd 27 08. Initial contact was on 11 08.

MOR 2708 FD.pdf

 

Here is their FD rec'd 27 08. Initial contact was on 11 08, here's that one.

MOR 11 08 1.pdf

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for what reason?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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3 hours ago, Monty Putron said:

This firm are now in the bargaining stage where they hawk respondent's details around in the hope of persuading one of their 'clients' to launch an action.

not sure who or what you are referring too here?
 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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not sure how many more times in various ADBC/moriarty PAP LOC topics here I have to keep saying this....

 

Moriarty are not debt buyers, they are not a DCA.

 

they are solicitors that can only do something when they are told to and legally engaged to do so, by their stated client.

 

they have no legal powers whatsoever to willy nilly do anything without being told to as they are not the legal owner of the debt and never can be.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Should they issue a claim without issuing a PAP then any defence must contain the following paragraph.....which has an adverse effect on costs .

 

1. The Claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) Failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st October 2017.It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant to 7.1 PAPDC.

 

Andy

 

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I may have missed a letter/letters.

 

I got a Moriarty text message referring to a different reference number than from the PAP I already replied to.

 

Should I also 'Pap-reply' to this reference number just in case?

They may be trying to backdoor CCJ me.

 

I have received nothing in the mail, but then my mail does go 'missing' a lot from my flat's shared mailbox.

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What does the text state in full ?

 

Reference number error ?

 

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you should be blocking all text/emails.

they have your correct address from the other pap reply.

so they will be in hot water should they try a backdoor ccj on anything now...

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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But it still would not be a backdoor claim

You'd not miss every letter nor a claimform from the court

Be pretty unlucky if you did

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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2 hours ago, Monty Putron said:

Dear Mr X Please contact Moriarty law on xxx quoting ref xxxx

 

Its the 2nd text msg I've had, the first one had the right ref number, which I ' pap

replied' to

 

 

So they have yet to actually send you in writing a Pre Action Protocol and Letter of Claim ?

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Right...your post reads like you had two text messages.

 

" Its the 2nd text msg I've had, the first one had the right ref number, "

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I did get two text messages.

 

1) I got a written pap and I sent a written standard pap reply

2) Then I got the first text asking to contact them. It quoted a ref number that checked out. Ignored.

3) The second text came just last week, with a different ref number that was not the one on their written pap or 1st text. Ignored and blocked.

 

Just worried about that second text as it has a different ref number that I don't recognise.

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Irrelevant unless they send a further PAP with that reference number.

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