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Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me. My son is an apprentice plumber and his work place treated him badly by making him go on site on his own before he is fully qualified despite my son telling them that he wasn’t happy and didn’t feel ready to be on his own. He is also supposed to have photos taken of of his work for his final gas exam but because he had been put on his own this hasn’t been done so this might cause him to fail his final exam. They have also been making him do work that he is not qualified to do on his own. The pressure has got too much for him and he’s left his job. The company are now saying that because he hasn’t given 3 weeks notice they are refusing to pay him his wages. Are you within there rights to do this as they have put him under too much pressure. 

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Angnnig 

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They must pay him up to second he stopped working for them, to do otherwise would constitute an unlawful deduction from his salary. An employer cannot withhold money earned or dip into someone's salary without authorisation. Unless the employer can prove that they made a substantial financial loss as a consequence of him leaving without giving notice. And I cannot see how that would apply in this case. It would only apply if some one off specialist upped and left causing his former employers to go bankrupt or some such. Sounds like a degree of bullying was going on too.

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If he is an apprentice the ‘rules’ are different.

Did he inform his supervisor for the apprenticeship of the safety issues, and discuss his options before leaving?

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Hi Many thanks for all your replies. As far as I’m aware he doesn’t owe any holidays. My son didn’t mention about health and safety as his boss is not very approachable. My son did however tell the college tutor that he couldn’t submit photos for his course work as his work place put him on his own and kept him on apprentice wages. The college tutor said he would back him up if need be. 

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Ang

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“Would back him up if needed” : becomes “should have involved them before stopping work”, as without support from the apprenticeship provider (rather than the employing firm), his apprenticeship is at risk, which is likely to be more of a concern than the few weeks wages (which the provider would be involved with, anyhow, but only if you tell them!)

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I expect there will be other comments, but I think involving the college is a good thing to do.

 

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Thanks for your replies. I should have mentioned my son is starting with another plumbing firm and they said they would make sure he continues to get his apprenticeship qualifications as he’s not got long left and only needs to pass one final gas exam and they will make sure there is someone working with him until he’s ready to go on his own. 

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Ang 

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Great! again, though, the college / apprenticeship provider HAVE to agree the new employer is suitable (and can put pressure on the previous employer, too!)

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Ok thanks Bazza I wasn’t aware of this. I thought that his new work place would have sorted it all out. Will get my son to contact the apprenticeship provider. 

How do we go about getting the wages he’s owed 

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Ang 

 

 

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apprenticeships are often underwritten by the govt in terms of the education and paying employers to take on apprentices so yes, he shoudl get the college involved to ensure the new employer can properly keep to the terms of the indenture.

Now what worries me is that if he has been doing gas installations and they are not being inspected before the gas safe ticket holder signs them off your son may well end up as the first in the queue to explain things to a coroners court if things go bad.. I would be looking at sharing this with the college/new employer as well so they can report the previous employer properly rather than it being on your son's head

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Thanks for you reply. I’ve asked my son about this and any gas work he has done has been safety checked and signed off so no worries on that score. The new company hes now working For is sorting out getting his apprenticeship with the college. 

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