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      After a summer of discontent with ASG I discovered that if you have paid HALF the agreement or more you can legally return the boiler to them at no cost to yourself. I've just returned mine the feeling is liberating.
       
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    • Dazza a few months ago I discovered a good friend of mine who had ten debts with cards and catalogues which he was slavishly paying off at detriment to his own family quality of life, and I mean hardship, not just absence of second holidays or flat screen TV's.
       
      I wrote to all his creditors asking for supporting documents and not one could provide any material that would allow them to enforce the debt.
       
      As a result he stopped paying and they have been unable to do anything, one even admitted it was unenforceable.
       
      If circumstances have got to the point where you are finding it unmanageable you must ask yourself why you feel the need to pay.  I guarantee you that these companies have built bad debt into their business model and no one over there is losing any sleep over your debt to them!  They will see you as a victim and cash cow and they will be reluctant to discuss final offers, only ways to keep you paying with threats of court action or seizing your assets if you have any.
       
      They are not your friends and you owe them no loyalty or moral duty, that must remain only for yourself and your family.
       
      If it was me I would send them all a CCA request.   I would bet that not one will provide the correct response and you can quite legally stop paying them until such time as they do provide a response.   Even when they do you should check back here as they mostly send dodgy photo copies or generic rubbish that has no connection with your supposed debt.
       
      The money you are paying them should, as far as you are able, be put to a savings account for yourself and as a means of paying of one of these fleecers should they ever manage to get to to the point of a successful court judgement.  After six years they will not be able to start court action and that money will then become yours.
       
      They will of course pursue you for the funds and pass your file around various departments of their business and out to third parties.
       
      Your response is that you should treat it as a hobby.  I have numerous files of correspondence each faithfully organised showing the various letters from different DCA;s , solicitors etc with a mix of threats, inducements and offers.   It is like my stamp collection and I show it to anyone who is interested!
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i hope Yasmeen Couser is going to be at this hearing else their WS is totally inadmissible.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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There is so much wrong with their WS.   You stopped for a very short time yet she seems to equate that as being parked! That flies in the face of what parking means.   There h

you are not filing a witness statement yet so the last bit doenst need to be said, you just sign the thing electronically if using MCOL   Less is more, that way you dont show the level of yo

Perry Mason, Honeybee? My  grandmother used to tell me about him.😀   Honeybee is right-it is very informal-no wigs and no hangman's cap. You refer to the Judge as Sir or Madam and they

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It seems she has failed to appear before in a no stopping case at Doncaster airport:

 

http://forums.National Consumer Service.com/lofiversion/index.php/t127209.html

 

"To cut the story short the judge dismissed the case as the witness (who wrote their witness statement Yasmeen Couser) was not present of the hearing and after half an hour of explaining to the guy from VCS that they cannot do that the case was dismissed"

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The case is confirmed to be held in person at my local court on next Tuesday 06/10.

It's my first time to be in court.

I'm feeling a bit nervous tbh.

 

Any tips would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

 

 

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1st tip is do NOT enter into any little chats their rep wants before you go in

smile and walk away.

 

ensure the writer of the WS in in court to be X examined in person by you.., if not question this with the judge  and politely point out rights of audience i think it is... the WS cannot thus be relied upon at all inc its exhibits.and is all but inadmissible.

 

other than that, only speak when spoken to by the judge, but don't sit there listening to a tissue of lies or fake statements, if you need too speak up.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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It isn't formal like Perry Mason. From what I understand it will be you, the judge and someone representing Simple Simon in a room around a table. [I haven't been to court myself, hopefully someone can add to what I've said.]

 

Do you have your papers organised in a file so you can find things easily when you want to refer to it?

 

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You wont get to cross examine anyone..the judge conducts the hearing...he speaks to you he speaks to the claimants representative... which can be in a normal court room or his chambers subject to how busy the court is.

 

If you wish to question validity of the statement and the drafts person not being in attendance....then simply refer to the following.

 

The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding that they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act given that they are not in attendance.

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Perry Mason, Honeybee? My  grandmother used to tell me about him.😀

 

Honeybee is right-it is very informal-no wigs and no hangman's cap.

You refer to the Judge as Sir or Madam and they will be in suits as you should be too, plus wearing a tie.

Do not interrupt the Judge and always be polite to the Judge.

 

If Yasmeen does not appear suggest to the Judge that it would be unfair that their brief is allowed to cross examine you since you have been denied the chance to cross examine her and there were many things that required examination in her WS.

 

Try not to gloat at the end.

Good luck.

 

Do not forget to claim your expenses-time off work, travel, parking and £19 per hour  legal work.

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Thanks a lot guys. One more question please:

 

How should I argue this rubbish point from VCS WS?


S38: It is argued that the Byelaws are therefore arbitrary. It is not mandatory that the Byelaws are utilised so long as the relationship is established between the two parties.
 

Byelaws is attached for reference. Thanks a lot!

 

Southend-on-Sea Municipal Airport Byelaws 1983.pdf

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Total eyewash.

Schedule 4 of POFA at section 2 and 3 describes the relevant land and relevant contract where POFA applies. The airport is operated under statutory control.

The Byelaws are quite clear that their rules are the relevant ones.

 

B   Acts for which Permission is Required 

51] No person shall, without the permission of the Airport Director, post, distribute or display signs etc etc

Under "Interpretation" the Airport Authority is Southend Council [this is the second tranche of Byelaws from the Council appearing under the first set of regs] as there are two sets of Interpretation listed.

 

Where Byelaws exist, any fines arising from breaches of the Byelaws go to the Exchequer rather than the airport or the parking company. So to get round this, the crooks are brought in to get round the money going to the Government.

 

Somewhere on the airport a company allows the crooks to set up their system that rakes in a lot more money than the Byelaws can and they do some sort of profit sharing arrangement together. Effectively they are cheating the Exchequer out of money that should have gone to them had any Byelaw been broken.

 

There should be a contract between the crooks and Southend Council.

 

Don't hold your breath looking for that contract.

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Just got a letter from my local court, saying the hearing for tomorrow is now being held on phone. Gutted the changes were made in the last minute.

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The case is adjourned as the guy from VCS claimed that they had not received my WS, which I did through post and email. The judge ask me to present my evidence in 7 days. Gutted for VCS's lies.
 
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It was a mess.

 

I was notified it would be done by phone.

In the last minute the court emailed to join team meeting through video.

The judge who also claimed he had not read my WS either although he admitted the court received it, seriously?

 

The case had been reassigned to a different judge today.

I didn't object it although I had waved my post certificate through my camera. 

What should I do now?

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Nothing .....wait for a new date...or you could email them a further copy.....show the court how amicable you are.

 

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what letter?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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The judge asked me to send to the court my evidence of sending WS to the Claimant. in 7 days. I did it in email and post with a post certificates'.

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simply do that then and resend it too by email did he say?
 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I asked email from the Claimant.

The guy was a solicitor and claimed he did not have any.

The judge did not have it either.

I'll just send y proof and get them in court there for their unreasonable behaviour. They obviously were lying.

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Well you have had it plenty of times and been told to block it...but anyway here it is.

 

PLEASE NOTE: If you have recently received a County Court Summons OR a County Court Judgement (CCJ) relating to Vehicle Control Services Ltd, DO NOT use this contact form to get in touch as it will not be answered, instead email directly to:

 

litigation@vehiclecontrol.co.uk

 

https://vehiclecontrolservices.co.uk/contact/

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I'll be sending my draft order, request to strike out the case, updated cost calculation, along with my proof of sending my WS to VCS.

Anything else I should mention in the letter / email to my local court?

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I'll be sending my draft order, request to strike out the case, 


On what grounds ?

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What abuse ? just because they state they have not received your statement and evidence...which may be possible if its gone to the wrong department... and the judge has adjourned to allow you to prove and rectify this allegedly mishap...is not really grounds of abuse on their part....it can and does happen.and unless you convince the court ,which Im sure you can....they could possibly go for a strike out of your defence because you " allegedly " failed to serve your statement and evidence on them by date and therefore didnt fully comply with the court directions.

 

The fee to make application for strike out is £100 without a hearing...and £250 with...which Im sure would require a hearing for that type of application....and the chances of your application being successful would be nil and dismissed by the court.

 

Do as the judge as directed.....bide your time..forget any application with draft orders for something that wont happen.

 

Andy 

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Fancy doing all that work and then not sending to the court and claimant registered delivery ?

 

cost a fiver but you can print off the date and signature of the person who signed for it at their end.

 

i was advised against email before the hearing as it gave them a chance to prepare a response to my points.

 

good luck but as Andy says you have to work with what you have, which is of course to comply as directed and to appear to be helpful in this regard not kicking back against the process or you are on shaky ground 🤐

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