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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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i had a contract with vodafone which ended on 27th june this year , i called them on the 28th to get the unlock code for my phone and got a 40p out of contract call fee for this , at this time my phone showed emergency calls only .

 

today i had an email from vodafone stating i was 41.00 in arreas on my new contract at 18.00 per month ( it was only 8.00 a month when it expired ) ,

 

i contacted vodafone today and they told me as i never asked to not renew the contract it was automatically rolled over at a new rate and i would have to pay it , the person i spoke to would not answer why i got a 40p fee for an out of contract call or why i could only get emergency calls on the 28th

 

, i put a new sim in the phone on this day with bt so have not been able to see if i had any messages from vodafone ,

 

surely this is illegal pushing a new contract onto somebody after theres has ended without a signed agreement to it

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I'm not sure what the rules are for automatically starting new contracts after the expiry of the old one for consumers. I thought that they were opt in rather than opt out but maybe if you have a look at the website of the communications regulator, you can find out for us and let us know.

However, what does concern me is that even if they are allowed to roll the contract over then it should at least be on the same terms and so to start a new contract which is clearly radically different because the cost is a huge increase cannot be acceptable.

 

Finally, of course, it is clear from the information you have given us about the other contract fee and the fact that they were no services available for a while that they allowed the contract to lapse. On this basis, whether they are entitled to rolling contract over or not, I don't expect for a moment that they would be entitled to start a new contract after the original contract had ceased.

 

you have got a new SIM card in the phone so you have a service so one could say that you are not being particularly inconvenienced by Vodafone at the moment other than they are treating you as if you are in debt to them and presumably at some point they may decide to blight your credit file.

 

however, as the matter is not screaming urgent you could decide to start a complaint through the communications Ombudsman which might produce a result. Alternatively you could become a bit more heavy-handed and start a county court claim against them. the county court route would be more effective in my view but of course it will all take about 6 months or so. This is likely to be about the same delay as a complaint to the regulator.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Check your original contract.

 

If it says “£18.00 per month, discounted to £8.00 for the first 12 months” (or similar, for the period up to 27th June), then they can charge the higher rate.

Regarding “imposing a new contract”, they can’t set a new minimum term, but can continue billing you until the existing contract is ended : they’ll say “of course we continue providing service so we don’t cut customers off”, and, providing service they’ll expect to be paid for it.

 

Solution, set a reminder a month before your contract is due to end, and get a PAC (if you wish to keep the number, serve notice instead if you don’t). Just remember to use the PAC, as if unused the contract will continue. It is using the PAC, not requesting it, that ends the contract.

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there is still the fact though that the day after my contract expired i could only make emergency calls and had a charge to actually call vodafone from my vodafone number so it was not really continuing as it it had ceased and was restarted at a later date ( which i do not know ) as i switched to bt mobile later that day

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this is still ongoing with these idiots , they are adamant i did not cancel the new contract

 

i have had several conversations with them uptil mid november at which point i had had enough and filled in their official complaint form , never heard a word more till

 

last thursday when i got a leter from moorcroft ,

since thursday i have had 3 phone calls ,

another letter ,

4 emails and

3 voicemals from moorcroft ,

 

so this has now already become harrasment in less than a week

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