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    • So with a long working history, which she can evidence, it should not be a problem. Still have to go though HRT process for any benefit application, if they have been out of the UK for more than 6 weeks. It won't be a smooth process though. Suggest they try to get advice via Embassy, before they start any journey.
    • Dep Thx Eric's Brother. There was a person on this forum who told me his case was thrown out at the same court because of the contract. I requested more info, but he has disappeared since his case was dismissed.  I was just wondering whether it was worth whacking off a letter to IPS pointing out one of their members, using their logo, is making a claim based on illegal signage and other issues in contravention of their Code of Practice. Would they lean on VCS to withdraw, do you think?
    • Mother and father worked here and then went to SA in about 1978 returning to UK in about 1996 and worked here until 2016 when her husband died at age 66.  He was still working at the time.  She then went to live with daughter in SA.  Mother only claims for her pension. 
    • Thanks, I owe the money, no issue with that, I will SAR the company.  If I need to just pay it and have the CCJ for a few years so be it.  Just thought I'd explore all options
    • By the way you wrote that post, i can see that you are as confused by the situation as someone reading it. Important advice must be not to pay for any flights etc, until they understand the situation fully. Those that have British passports could be entitled to receive UK benefits. However, nothing is that straightforward. The passport does guarantee anything. The daughter could be entitled to Universal Credit ( which includes housing) as a British passport holder, but this can only be confirmed when she has gone through the Habitual Residency test (HRT). So you will need to read about HRT for British passport holders returning to the UK. There will be requirements to provide information about why they are returning to the UK and what work searches have they done to find work on their return to the UK. In regard to the mother who has a British passport, you will be correct in presuming that no council is going to be helpful in paying for the care home fees immediately on arrival in the UK. When did the mother last live in the UK ? When did the mother last work in the UK ? British embassy in South Africa may be able to provide information and assist with applications ? Just getting on a plane, landing in the UK and expecting help to resolve their situation, would be a silly thing to do. I can see the mother ending up in an NHS hospital for a period, while people wondered how they were going to deal with the situation. Probably not the first to do this, but if the mother also has a South African passport, they could put her on a plane back to SA and then the Daughter would be a difficult situation. Embassy in South Africa must be first place of advice.
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Hi 

 

received my letter this morning about assessment for my esa claim :( is it still run by Atos or someone else? Dreading going through all this again :(

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Run by a different company. Better than ATOS, but still use same points based system.

 

If you have evidence from your own Doctors, make sure you send to assessment centre before you attend your assessment.

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Thank you unclebulgaria,my doctor understands my problems,do I ask her to write something for me about the problems I have? Do doctors usually help out

 

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The work capability assessment is based on how they assess you on a particular day.

 

If you regularly see a Doctors and they have a better understanding of your health, then yes ask your Doctors for a letter, just confirming your current situation.

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I always take someone with me, they take notes, and speak for me when I am having difficulty explaining things. 

The assessment was done in the same building Atos used, but not by Atos.

 

The result for me this time was being placed back in the esa support group,

my physical ailments were mainly given as to the reason why.

 

I strongly believe having someone with me, and good advisors (here in CAG) has been a great help.

 

They said work

"could be considered within 18 months" at the end of the report,

I felt like it was the weakest attempt they could make to please the dwp. 

 

Since then my benefit has changed to UC and I have been told I "may" have another wca at the end of the 18 months. 

If this happens I will take someone again and follow through in the same way. 

 

I think they still do recorded assessments,

I couldn't have one last time as they said I had to be there for 8.00 am and be prepared to wait a couple of hours or so in a queue,

 

they knew full well my daughter has a son in school with health problems and couldn't have come with me,

so I had to have one without recording....

when we got there at 9 ish I think it was,

the waiting room was empty,

so this queue wasn't there then. 

 

If time scales aren't an issue I would go for a recorded assessment at least.

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Thank you Ruby.

 

how long does it normally take for the decision to come in the post?

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It varies, at a guess i'd say anything between 3-6 weeks for me over the time, but I don't think there is any actual set waiting time.

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I have my assessment on 3rd October.I’m already panicking in case they find me fit for work :( I did go to see my doctor about giving me evidence and she said they have already sent her a form to complete and send back,I hope everything goes my way next Thursday, so scared :(

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I hope it goes well for you.  Hopefully your doctor's input will do the trick.  

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Hi

 

Today was the the day of my assessment but I got a call from them this morning and they said they have cancelled my appointment and I will hear from dwp in a few weeks

 

i thought they were going to give me a new date but he said I no longer need to attend the assessment and repeated. About hearing from dwp in a few weeks.

 

what do think has happened?

 

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Hi....I cant be definite in your case, but this happened to me a while back, and it turned out that there was no assessment and the assessor had returned my file to the dwp, the result was I stayed in my benefit and no assessment.  I am pretty sure they cant find you fit to work without an assessment, as that's what its all about......so hopefully you will hear good news soon.  I really hope so.  Good luck.

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33 minutes ago, Ruby_Tuesday said:

Hi....I cant be definite in your case, but this happened to me a while back, and it turned out that there was no assessment and the assessor had returned my file to the dwp, the result was I stayed in my benefit and no assessment.  I am pretty sure they cant find you fit to work without an assessment, as that's what its all about......so hopefully you will hear good news soon.  I really hope so.  Good luck

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Sounds like they have advised DWP to continue with current award, until a future assessment outcome decides otherwise. 

 

 


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Received my letter which said I’ve been placed in support group which I was already in,so good news they’ve left it as it was,what a huge relief! 

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You can ask them for a written statement of reason, so you understand how they have made their decision to keep you in the support group and when they will next review this.

 

Make sure you maintain regular appoinments with your own Doctors as required by them, so there is a record being kept.  So if you needed your Doctors help with benefits assessments ec, this can be arranged.

 

You may be surprised that some people with health conditions, sometimes don't see their Doctors for extended periods of time, which then makes it difficult for their Doctors to complete reports required by benefits assessors,

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Thank you for the advice unclebulgaria 👍

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Hi

 

 Just so you are aware of exactly who carries out these assessment since Atos lost the contract it is now Maximus (you will see a different name on the website and paperwork but it is Maximus) that carry out these Assessments different company and they are an American company whose contract has been extended until 2021.

 

If you look at the website for the company in the UK (that DWP use) they call themselves 'Health Assessment Advisory Service' got to the bottom of there website and look to the left under 'Centre for Health and Disability Assessments' and look what it says.

 

https://www.chdauk.co.uk/

 

Do an internet search for Maximus medical assessments in America.

 

This is an American Company carrying these Assessment out and they certainly wont be doing it without a gain to them.

 

 


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