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 i am asking for a friend. 

She got a CCJ from VCS parking and wants to pay before the 28 days period ends ( on friday) to prevent the CCJ being registered

 

VCS will not take payment of it and insist she pays a 3rd party of which they have added on their own fee,

 

VCS says they wont tell the court it was paid if she doesnt pay the third party and their extortionate fees. 

 

What does she need to do? URGENT

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I expect the guys will be along later to advise you, please bear with us until they're able to get here. :)

 

Best. HB


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Thanks HoneyBee.

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why didnt she defend the claim?

 

 

 


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but anyway

they cant add anything to the judgement figure..


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This " third party "...wouldn't happen to be the solicitors named on the claim form...and this " fee " wouldn't happen to be their Solicitors Charge and issuance of the claim fee ?

 

Andy


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The one time I got a CCJ (which was way back in the early 80s) I paid the money to the court but I see that is no longer the case.

 

How about sending VCS a cheque and ignoring their rubbish?

 

However, your post does lead to a lot of questions.  Is she trying to get out of court/legal costs as Andy asks?  Why didn't she defend the claim (VCS are idiots and hardly unbeatable)?  Why doesn't she go for a set aside?  Etc.

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Her reply; 

 

when I first received the ticket I sent an appeal letter I uploaded to the pcn site asking for proof they owned the land and money lost etc. They said they did not receive it.


I then filled out the claim form with incomings and outgoings and an offer of £20 per month.

I heard nothing. 


Then the CCJ came.

I called the court who told me to avoid the CCJ being on file for 6 years to pay vehicle control services within one month of the judgement.

 

I was planning on doing this Friday when I get paid.

 

I then received the Elms letter with the added £90 fees.
I spoke to VCS who told me I have to pay elms.
Elms have told me that if I want the CCJ wiped I have to pay them the full amount, who will then inform VCS who will then inform the court. 

 

ElMS identify ad a legal law firm and have been instructes to collect the outstanding CCJ but have slapped on £90 in fees. 

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read upload

can you scan the elms letter to PDF please

they and no-one cant add anything onto a court judgement unless the judgement box specfically states they can 

Elms is a new one to us

 

dx

 

 


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I hope this works, 

she says that she got the claim form and filled out something to do with making an offer but it was ignored

 

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all blurred and you need to redact it!!

removed


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redact?

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Redact means hide the personal details (like name and address, reference numbers and bar codes).

 

I did get to read what I could. It seems that what they are saying is that if they have to send a collector out they will charge extra. If it goes beyond the month they can start recovery proceedings to get the money which will cost her extra.

 

Couple of quick questions

1) date of judgement

2) date of their letter

3) total amount of judgement (including all the court fees, costs, interest etc)

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And Solicitor named on the court claim if one was used .


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1) Date of that letter 20 JUNE 2019

2) Date of judgement 10th June 

 The second attempt I uploaded address was covered, so don't know why that one was removed, 

 

3) Total original Judgement amount is £185 this is everything court costs and interest etc,

 

- ELMS are wanting £90 on top of this, she is within the 30 day period before its registered. she has tried to pay it but they wont let her. they demand she pays ELMS along with theor fees,

 

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VCS use the "myparkingcharge" portal. Is she able to still log in through there?

 

Date of judgement?

Solicitor on claim form?

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date of judgement is the 10th I edited above, solicter unknown claimant on judgement is Vehicle Control Services. no cannot log in as no longer has detials

Edited by Wisey
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simon Renshaw smith[vcs] no longer uses solicitors now in most court claims

this lot cant add anything to a court judgement!!

 

I think a stiff letter with a cheque for the judgement amount is in order here??


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im wondering if she could phone them and ask for bank deatails in order for her pay it. no disclose  anything just say she wants to pay a charge?

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I would write a cheque out...photocopy the cheque...and post it to the address named on the claim form.Its their choice if they wish to cash it or not.....you have a copy of the cheque and date...should you require proof if they register after 28 days.

 

Attach a copy of the judgment

 

Send signed for next day  delivery..retain as proof.

You should not hear anything further from them...keep checking to see if they have cashed it.

 

Andy


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Agreed Dx. They have no right to add anything to the judgement amount (yet!) A stiffly worded letter together with a complaint to CILEx would be in order.

 

As VCS were unrepresented (Simple Simon working alone - after all he figures he can't do any worse than Gladrags) then the payment should be to VCS. There is absolutely no reason to pay an unrelated third party and the judgement should clearly state how much to pay, by when and to whom. If they don't say to pay Elms then that's that. Can you attach a copy of the judgement for us to be certain?

 

I doubt VCS will offer up their bank details too easily though, they will just direct her to the "myparkingcharge" site. Has she checked on the "myparkingcharge" site? It's a long shot but nothing to lose by looking. Failing that, the cheque as Andy suggests. Anyone got a go-pro or something? Video from post office as you show the cheque going in envelope, same envelope being handed over. Leave them no room to try to claim that they received an empty envelope or something equally ridiculous.

 

VCS are in breach of GDPR in passing details to Elms before her time to pay is up. Now would be a good time to start thinking about a claim against them and a complaint to the ICO.

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thanks u., 

 

can u help with a template letter please?

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No time for pointless letter tennis...clock is ticking...as per my post #21


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she sends a cheque to their registered address in Sheffield and to make sure it arrives she sends it recorded.

They cant refuse the payment or insist she pays some other bandit or the debt is considered mitigated  and if they do try and refuse she should WRITE to the court and tell them that payment was refused.

If that does happen we can help with the letter to court as she might want to consider an affidavit ( swear) and that will blow VCS out of the water if they try and say that they didnt receive the payment.

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