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Hi just received this from the bottom feeders, I know I have to acknowledge within 14 days.  Its from 2015 so cant find the paperwork for it, but will look.

 

Parking on private development whilst visiting a friend, not displaying Permit, looked at my friends contract with private landlord, nothing in it about parking.

 

Are the Particulars of claim sufficient?

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

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OK say where the parking took place exact address/postcode and we will ahve a look on gogglespy to see what we can see from the public highway.

Now as you mention permit scheme then it is likely that the notices there are not a genuine offer of terms for parking butinstead  prohibitive such as "permit holders only". it wont matter what other rubbish they spout after those words as it becomes a matter of trespassas you didnt have a permit so nothing else applies.

If the sign says free parking for permit holders, everyone else pays £100 to a bunch of greedy cowboys then that would be legally binding.

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Hi all, I hope this is ok.

 

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They say I was on Broomhall Developments, the car was parked on Broomspring Close.  S37XA

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Part of the POFA rules for creating a liability to pay a parking co is identifying the land they control so is there another palce of the incorrect name?

If so then photographs of the other site will prove that your vehicle cnat possibly have been there as the images they will produce wont match the background etc.

If however Bromhall developments is the name of their employer would the land in question be known by the same name for the entire development?

 

The POC is the usual rubbish and inaccurate one they cribbed from Gladstones so can be attacked in your outline defence.

 

Now I have googled Broomhall developments and they are an Irish Co that has bult a similar named housing estate in IRELAND. ther is also  a Broomhall gateway development plan for SCOTLAND but nothing in England, let alone Sheffield specifically

 

defence has to be in a fortnight after the deadline for the AOS assuming you get that in on time.

 

On google noseyneighbour I can see signs near to the parking bays that say permit holders only so unless you have a permit the signage doesnt apply to youas you would be prohibited fro parking there anyway. So with this in mind were you parked in a bay or on the road? Were you visiting or connected to the property that bay was allocated to and if so can you find out if the bay is part fo the property and noted in the deeds. If it is then it has nowt to do with VCS.

 

So you are going to grab some pictures and then you compare these to the web site of Broomhall development in ireland and that will be part fo your evidence

 

Also ask council when the Close was adopted by council as it appears to be a public highway

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Will try get clear pics of signage.

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Hi ericsbrother, thanks for your reply, I will send you detailed response ASAP.

 

i need to go Doc appointment.

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Tues the 9th July by 16.00pm to acknowledge service and Tues  23rd July to submit your defence...by 16.00pm

 

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Thanks for that Andy,  ericsbrother:

 

1. I think that is the name of the development as a whole, Broomhall developments, I know the Agents are Fairways, they are the letting agency, they told me so themselves.  I think thats whom employed them

 

2. There are loads of roads on the development,  Broomhall Close, is just one.

 

3. We just parked on a Bay no special one, was visiting friend on estate, their is numbers in bays.

 

4. My friend showed me their Tenancy agreement, nothing about parking.

 

5. Can you give me heads up on how to find when Broomhall Close was adopted by council, been on hold for 15 mins Amey who maintains the roads.

 

This is the same format all signs are in at present in situ on Broomhall Close. 4 in total.

Tue, 8 Jan 2019, 11_21.pdf

 

I will be sending the Acknowledgement of Service today.  Do I just send page 2. and not the N9B or N9A.

 

Thanks,

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Do it on line using MCOL....all the instructions are contained within the claim pack......its free and secure...unlike post.


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follow this

you DONT send an SAR but a CPR 

 

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
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 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
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 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
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 then using the details required from the claimform
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 defend all
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 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.
..
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no need to sign anything
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you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]


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yep, there are 2 online versions of the process and whichever you use is quicker than post and you dont have to send a copy to the claimant then.

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3 hours ago, Geocyper said:

Thanks for that Andy,  ericsbrother:

 

1. I think that is the name of the development as a whole, Broomhall developments, I know the Agents are Fairways, they are the letting agency, they told me so themselves.  I think thats whom employed them

 

2. There are loads of roads on the development,  Broomhall Close, is just one.

 

3. We just parked on a Bay no special one, was visiting friend on estate, their is numbers in bays.

 

4. My friend showed me their Tenancy agreement, nothing about parking.

 

5. Can you give me heads up on how to find when Broomhall Close was adopted by council, been on hold for 15 mins Amey who maintains the roads.

 

1. no it isnt. Fairways lettings agency? they dont own the site so start researching rather than guessing or making assumptions.

 

If you start with that frame of mind you give away half of the protection of the POFA as they have so far failed to identify the land and that is a winning point on its own if you use it correctly. start making things up and none of your evidence will be believed on the day.

 

Rubbish their evidence in one area and anything they say will be considered dubious unless proven 100%

 

2. are they adopted?- ask the council

 

3 the signage is prohibitive so not a genuine offer of terms- read up on it there are plenty of previous cases in the parking prasnksters blogspot.

 

4 tenacy agreement is not the document that matters you need to look at the deeds to the property- that will cost you £3 online

 

5 answered in my previous reply ASK THE COUNCIL.

 

please read and digest what people say or you will end up dropping yourself in it.

 

As for the image of a parking space with a fence behind it there is no signage attached to that location so how did the parking co draw your attention to any conditiond for parking there as their signs dont refer to your circumstance nor that place as the terms are for "designated bays". This is very specific

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ericsbrother, Ok thanks, I actually spoke to Fairways, they said they were the Agents.  This is what they told me when I asked whom the site owner was.

 

I will do some research on the issues you raised.

 

I am going to take picts this afternoon off signage.

 

Thanks. 

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fairways agents? so what, they are not the landowner so anything they say is irrelevant. Anyway, they wont and cant be the agents for any property that has been sold freehold.

what happened is you spoke to a company that dealt with 1 letting on the estate and have inflated that to somehting that can never be true.

 

the devil is in the detail on all of these things so get digging and get everything written down or recorded

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ericsbrother,

Paid my £3 the owners of the land are BROOMHALL MANAGEMENT LTD 

(CO. Regn. No.  02784766. address 356 Meadowhead, Sheffield S8 7UJ)

 

I have a sneaky suspicion that theses may be land agents.

 

Just completed a CPR 31.14 to Vehicle Control Services Ltd, ready to be sent.

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Ok thanks, will do. 

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residential property managers.

now that may well mean that VCS dont have a contract with anyone who actually has a say in what goes on there

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 we still need to get to the bottom of this, the deed should be in the name of whoever your mates landlord is and going through the blurb it should say who it was bought from and that will usually be the builder/developer. It will then stipulate any covenants or conditions and easments over the land or other rights held by the owner or other peopele.

Did you get the plan of the property as well as the written details? If you didnt then you will have to pay again or phone up the relevant Land Regisrty office and ask them nicely for it using your existing reference

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Hi ericsbrother, just emailed you copy of document, Land Title.  I have done everything now, acknowledged the claim, put in CPR request, will get up to date pictures of site today, anything else I should be doing that is urgent?

 

Thanks.

Edited by Geocyper
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so you have eb's email address?

 


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These are the photos of the signs that are in situ where I parked.

 

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