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    • and you can't click on the enter a defence option. sometimes we've found you can.   you should have come here sooner an we would have made sure you did it right...  
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    • We applied for a joint loan for £9000 in 2010 which was secured against our home, in 2012 we were declared bankrupt but because we kept our house the loan stood while we were going through our financial problems we defaulted on the loan.   We had then started making payments but with all the interest etc it went past the £9000 we originally borrowed. We got the loan down to £6000 then hubby lost job and we seriously couldn't even afford to pay a penny and again it built back up.   The debt is now with a solicitor and now we owe according to them £18000. I have requested from welcome finance every payment we have made, every statement etc they have refused.   We are only making payments of £65 a month going to take forever but its also gone to a ccj which should have been removed on Oct last year.   Where can I go for help with the dispute over the amount we owe. Thanks   Solicitor is mortimore Clarke 
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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
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2 places never to go with any complaint resolver and CAB!!!

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/413250-currys-pc-world-amp-knowhow-whatever-happens/page/2/#comments  

Thanks. I’ll post the defence here when I receive it.

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You seem to be in some doubt.

The outcome is a foregone conclusion. You will win. The only question is whether they will put their hands up or they will see you to a hearing.

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Make sure that you track the return of the item and keep a paper trail of its safe delivery.

 

In the meantime, register with Moneyclaim and start preparing your claim.  99% they will not respond to your LBA or else they will refuse you so get ready now.

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currys have provided a DPD drop off label with tracking so I will use that. 

i have just registered with MCOL. do i begin new claim now or do i wait 14 days?

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You may as well start the process now. You can save your work so that you are ready to click it off on day 15.

I don't know why but I have a funny feeling that there has been some issue about the name of the defendant and that they put in an objection at one point because the action was addressed to Currys and it shouldn't have been or it was addressed to DSG and it shouldn't have been.

You should find a reference to it in one of the threads here that it may be a bit of a hunt.

What is the name on the receipt?

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Blimey - that was a quick response!!!

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I'm sure that's fine – although these people are extremely petty and like to cause trouble for nothing so you might like to address the claim to DSG retail Ltd (full company name) t/a Currys

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yes it will be DSG retail limited as that’s the name on my invoice. 

 

i am not sure what to write on claim particulars now. do i claim for full RRP of macbook pro 15 & 8% interests?

what if they refund me for the mbp 13, does that change what i claim for then?

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I proposed a draft for you here

if they haven't refunded you by day 15 then claim for the full recommended retail price of the computer which you contracted for plus interest. If they refund you then of course subtract that from the full retail recommended retail price and claim that plus interest.

You should realise that if they don't put their hands up immediately then this could go on for six months. In that case if you need a computer then you should go ahead and buy one somewhere else in which case if they try to offer you a computer instead of money, then you should refuse it and tell them that it is too late. In that case insist on the money.

 

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On 24/06/2019 at 14:55, Andyorch said:

thank you

 

for the claim particulars what ebay auction reference number should I be using? is it the order number on my order confirmation email from eBay, or is it the eBay order reference number on Currys paper invoice? on the ebay email obviously the item was a MBP 15, on Currys paper invoice the item was MBP 13. do they matter?

 

ps there is no order number on the electronic invoice.

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The objective is simply to allow them to identify the transaction. If there are two reference numbers then put both. Put eBay reference numbers X X X, invoice number ZZZ, dated X X date X X

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ebay generated their own number for orders - in my order confirmation email it was 05-03481-54910. currys has their own reference number which was EBY1000XXXXXX, and there was an invoice number on electronic invoice. include them all?

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Why not.  Make it clear what each ref number is

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so my claim particulars is this:

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple Macbook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey (2019) on an eBay auction: eBay order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, Invoice number 1342689 for a promotional price of £1808 (total paid £1708 with eBay voucher code). The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price. The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value. The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The claimant seeks £2349 being the full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

there is still one line remaining so more details can be added 

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On 24/06/2019 at 18:04, Irt8787 said:

so my claim particulars is this:

 

The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple Macbook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey (2019) on an eBay auction: eBay order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, Invoice number 1342689. The full retail price is £X X X but it was on offer for  a promotional price of £1808 (total paid £1708 with eBay voucher code). The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price. The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value. The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The claimant seeks £2349 being the full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

there is still one line remaining so more details can be added 

 

I would put in a couple of edits. There's no need to start going on about the voucher. That just complicates and confuses the issue and has nothing to do with Currys.

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the full retail price was Apple's retail price. the item was listed at £1808 on ebay for Buy It Now but Currys did not mention the rrp in the listing or say it was on offer. so maybe we cant use the wordings currys made it clear what the rrp was

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Okay, I've amended the draft – but does Currys sell the model that you actually tried to buy? And what is their price of it?

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yes they currently have it listed on eBay in different colour (silver) @ £2349 , same price on their own website for both space grey and silver

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Okay great, that reduces the amount of money that you have to sue for.

Could you just post up what you are going to use in your draft particulars of claim and I'll edit it accordingly

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I made a slight amendment myself. i am claiming for difference in price (£2349 - £1708)     *not sure about the amount that I should claim. item sold for £1808. the amount that I actually paid was £1708 as ebay code made the price £100 cheaper

 

current draft:

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple MacBook Pro 15'' with Touchbar,256GB SSD,Space Grey(2019) on an eBay auction order number 05-03481-54910,Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637,invoice number 1342689.The full retail price is £2349 but it was on offer for a promotional price of £1808.The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price.The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value.The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The defendant has refunded on return of incorrect item. The claimant seeks £641 being the difference in full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple MacBook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey(2019)on an eBay auction order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, invoice number 1342689.The full retail price is £2349 but the defendant offered it for a promotional price of £1808.The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking promitional price of £1808.The defendant then sent a lower spec model computer.The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods.   The claimant has returned the incorrect item and received a refund of £1808 but continues to refuse to supply promotional the computer agreed and paid for in the contract. The claimant seeks £641 being the difference between the sum refunded and the full value contracted-for item or else specific performance of the contract.

 

You won't be able to claim interest on the £641 because you haven't actually paid that out. You could have claimed  interest on the money that you paid – the £1808 – had it not been refunded.

Does what I have drafted above fit into the word limit in money claim online?

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