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    • So I have to ask you once again, has sweatband eventually refused to accept any responsibility for this now that you have been knocked back by the manufacturer? I'd be very grateful if you could address this question which I've already asked twice now.
    • Hi    The first one was purchased in August 2020 and returned in October. This is the link to the page.    https://www.sweatband.com/proform-pro-1500-treadmill.html   We wanted to research our rights so we were clear on them before going back to the manufacturer or sweatband. The last communication was with the manufacturer who sweatband directed us to and the manufacturer told us the location of the treadmill was unsuitable and we had to move it our it would void our warranty.    I wonder if you could be kind enough to let me know if you think the link above affects our protection under the consumer rights act?    Thank you again  EM0149
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    • Thanks! I've had several successes in the past 4 years or so which stemmed from a financially difficult part of my life around 2011/13. Basically I was financially trapped with Quick Quid, in a cycle of increased borrowing, during this I'd opened three catalogue accounts: Studio, JD Williams and Simply Be , 2 credit cards (Aqua and Barclays) and was juggling finances. In that time I had got 2 CCJs plus 2 defaults so things were pretty tight. I was using most of my available credit until things eventually became unsustainable. When I moved house I used the deposit to pay off Quick Quid and got into arrangements to repay the catalogues. The credit card limit was still rising until 2017 when I borrowed the balance of nearly £6000 from a family member and cleared the Aqua card. The Barclaycard had already defaulted. In 2017 I began action for irresponsible lending against Quick Quid. Basically they could not show the criteria they used to make lending decisions  and kept lending to me so I won the case. I was refunded all interest and fees  and charges plus 8% pa. When it was upheld it gave me the confidence to challenge JDW and SB. These were also upheld and they had to repay interest, fees and charges plus 8% from the second credit limit increase which amounted to about £1200 each. I challenged Aqua where my redress covering 6 years fees, interest and charges accrued to nearly £9000.  Barclaycard was not upheld but the default was moved back to an earlier date meaning it expires sooner.  All my IRL cases succeeded because none of these companies could prove that they had diligently checked my financial history. My credit report clearly showed that I was using a high or at limit proportion of available credit and that I'd accrued two unconnected CCJ's and 2 defaults throughout the lives of these accounts. Whether they should have given me the accounts in the first place was also brought into question but it was the sustained but gradual increase of CL's time and time again without proper checks. JDW were unable or unwilling to show the ombudsman what criteria they used. It only appeared that because I paid on time they continued to offer increases where in reality I was actually juggling finances like a fine balancing act.  It would appear that the FOS are looking at catalogue debt as I know when my cases against JDW and SB were being investigated they mentioned this.  My case against Studio should conclude soon. I was curious as to why now Cabot are trying to cut their losses by offering such a hefty discount. I can only summise that Studio are trying to buy back the debt for less.  
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2 places never to go with any complaint resolver and CAB!!!

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/413250-currys-pc-world-amp-knowhow-whatever-happens/page/2/#comments  

Thanks. I’ll post the defence here when I receive it.

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You seem to be in some doubt.

The outcome is a foregone conclusion. You will win. The only question is whether they will put their hands up or they will see you to a hearing.

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Make sure that you track the return of the item and keep a paper trail of its safe delivery.

 

In the meantime, register with Moneyclaim and start preparing your claim.  99% they will not respond to your LBA or else they will refuse you so get ready now.

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currys have provided a DPD drop off label with tracking so I will use that. 

i have just registered with MCOL. do i begin new claim now or do i wait 14 days?

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You may as well start the process now. You can save your work so that you are ready to click it off on day 15.

I don't know why but I have a funny feeling that there has been some issue about the name of the defendant and that they put in an objection at one point because the action was addressed to Currys and it shouldn't have been or it was addressed to DSG and it shouldn't have been.

You should find a reference to it in one of the threads here that it may be a bit of a hunt.

What is the name on the receipt?

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Blimey - that was a quick response!!!

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I'm sure that's fine – although these people are extremely petty and like to cause trouble for nothing so you might like to address the claim to DSG retail Ltd (full company name) t/a Currys

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yes it will be DSG retail limited as that’s the name on my invoice. 

 

i am not sure what to write on claim particulars now. do i claim for full RRP of macbook pro 15 & 8% interests?

what if they refund me for the mbp 13, does that change what i claim for then?

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I proposed a draft for you here

if they haven't refunded you by day 15 then claim for the full recommended retail price of the computer which you contracted for plus interest. If they refund you then of course subtract that from the full retail recommended retail price and claim that plus interest.

You should realise that if they don't put their hands up immediately then this could go on for six months. In that case if you need a computer then you should go ahead and buy one somewhere else in which case if they try to offer you a computer instead of money, then you should refuse it and tell them that it is too late. In that case insist on the money.

 

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On 24/06/2019 at 14:55, Andyorch said:

thank you

 

for the claim particulars what ebay auction reference number should I be using? is it the order number on my order confirmation email from eBay, or is it the eBay order reference number on Currys paper invoice? on the ebay email obviously the item was a MBP 15, on Currys paper invoice the item was MBP 13. do they matter?

 

ps there is no order number on the electronic invoice.

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The objective is simply to allow them to identify the transaction. If there are two reference numbers then put both. Put eBay reference numbers X X X, invoice number ZZZ, dated X X date X X

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ebay generated their own number for orders - in my order confirmation email it was 05-03481-54910. currys has their own reference number which was EBY1000XXXXXX, and there was an invoice number on electronic invoice. include them all?

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Why not.  Make it clear what each ref number is

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so my claim particulars is this:

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple Macbook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey (2019) on an eBay auction: eBay order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, Invoice number 1342689 for a promotional price of £1808 (total paid £1708 with eBay voucher code). The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price. The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value. The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The claimant seeks £2349 being the full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

there is still one line remaining so more details can be added 

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On 24/06/2019 at 18:04, Irt8787 said:

so my claim particulars is this:

 

The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple Macbook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey (2019) on an eBay auction: eBay order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, Invoice number 1342689. The full retail price is £X X X but it was on offer for  a promotional price of £1808 (total paid £1708 with eBay voucher code). The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price. The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value. The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The claimant seeks £2349 being the full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

there is still one line remaining so more details can be added 

 

I would put in a couple of edits. There's no need to start going on about the voucher. That just complicates and confuses the issue and has nothing to do with Currys.

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the full retail price was Apple's retail price. the item was listed at £1808 on ebay for Buy It Now but Currys did not mention the rrp in the listing or say it was on offer. so maybe we cant use the wordings currys made it clear what the rrp was

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Okay, I've amended the draft – but does Currys sell the model that you actually tried to buy? And what is their price of it?

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yes they currently have it listed on eBay in different colour (silver) @ £2349 , same price on their own website for both space grey and silver

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Okay great, that reduces the amount of money that you have to sue for.

Could you just post up what you are going to use in your draft particulars of claim and I'll edit it accordingly

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I made a slight amendment myself. i am claiming for difference in price (£2349 - £1708)     *not sure about the amount that I should claim. item sold for £1808. the amount that I actually paid was £1708 as ebay code made the price £100 cheaper

 

current draft:

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple MacBook Pro 15'' with Touchbar,256GB SSD,Space Grey(2019) on an eBay auction order number 05-03481-54910,Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637,invoice number 1342689.The full retail price is £2349 but it was on offer for a promotional price of £1808.The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking price.The defendant then sent a different model computer of a lower value.The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods. The defendant has refunded on return of incorrect item. The claimant seeks £641 being the difference in full value of the advertised item plus interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts act 1984 or else specific performance of the contract.

 

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The defendant company advertised a laptop computer Apple MacBook Pro 15'' with Touchbar, 256GB SSD, Space Grey(2019)on an eBay auction order number 05-03481-54910, Currys PC World order reference EBY1000248637, invoice number 1342689.The full retail price is £2349 but the defendant offered it for a promotional price of £1808.The claimant succeeded at the auction and paid the asking promitional price of £1808.The defendant then sent a lower spec model computer.The defendant refuses to supply the contractual goods.   The claimant has returned the incorrect item and received a refund of £1808 but continues to refuse to supply promotional the computer agreed and paid for in the contract. The claimant seeks £641 being the difference between the sum refunded and the full value contracted-for item or else specific performance of the contract.

 

You won't be able to claim interest on the £641 because you haven't actually paid that out. You could have claimed  interest on the money that you paid – the £1808 – had it not been refunded.

Does what I have drafted above fit into the word limit in money claim online?

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