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    • debt collection agencies will always lie to make money.   pay the debt owner what you owe if they want to charge unlawful debt collection fees , that's their problem.   let them issue a court claim, see how far they get!!   there are a few threads here regarding IF/ if not collection charges are actually allowed, I think it pays to go read your lease documents carefully to make sure    read these too:   https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-8889411648654839:3134625398&q=ground rent DCA charges&oq=ground rent DCA charges&gs_l=partner-generic.3...131396.138941.0.139161.23.23.0.0.0.0.143.1829.20j3.23.0.gsnos%2Cn%3D13...0.7573j4071087j24...1.34.partner-generic..23.0.0.PHbq0LZxjQQ      
    • I doubt they'll take a blind bit of notice TBH you could quote the FCA rules to them, but I doubt they even know who they are even though I assume they are FCA registered.?? go check the company name fca reg number on the FCA register that they should quote at the bottom of all correspondence.  
    • its not a letter from PRA  its a large brown windowed A4 envelope from northants bulk county court - a court claim pack. you DO NOT ignore  you DO NOT contact the fleecers or their dogs. his next time..never ignore a Letter of claim never run from debt never move without informing ALL your debt owners in writing   ... you are lucky this was not filed to an old address and 1st you'd know is bailiffs at your door   please complete this:      
    • Thanks for your reply. Should I email them stating that the penalty is unlawful?
    • Hello,   I'm brand new here and am hoping someone might be able to give me some advice. Sorry in advance that this is so long!   a couple of years ago Property Management Company Ltd sent Debt Agency 1 after us (both saying they acted 'on instruction of Leaseholder Ltd' - separate company) for late payment of our service fee on our flat (200 miles away, tenanted since purchase).   We hadn't owned the house long and, in spite of us chatting to Property Management Company Ltd all the time various things to do with our tenants and them having multiple records of our real correspondence address, they sent the bill to our tenants, so we didn't realise we were late with it.   We wrote to them and politely pointed out they had multiple records of our real postal address. They admitted it was their mistake, we paid, charge was removed, they said they would update records and email service charge in future, all fine.   Last week Leaseholder Ltd sent Debt Company 2 after me about 2 x unpaid ground rent plus collection fee, they had also been sending bills to the tenants address. I had received one bill from Leaseholder Ltd for GR since purchase, sent to correct address, but that was ages ago. I paid it straight away at the time, but I guess it never really crossed my mind how long it'd been since I'd received one.   Explained to Debt Company 2 that had received one bill ages ago, that suggests they did in fact have my address? They claim they didn't, and tenant or lettings agent must have opened letter and forwarded.   Also explained to Debt Company 2 about previous mistake with Property Management Company Ltd and Debt Agency 1, and explained both said they were acting on Leaseholder Ltd's behalf - so surely one of them told Leaseholder Ltd, once it was all resolved, that the issue had been down the the address mix up? No, says Debt Company 2, Leaseholder Ltd has never heard of your London address, nor did they instruct Debt Agency 1 to act on their behalf, and it's 'very illegal' that they claimed they were acting for them. So no idea what's going on there.   Leaseholder Ltd say it's not their fault no one gave them the right address. I say it's not my fault that Debt Agency 1 and Property Management Company Ltd both gave strong (and apparently illegal) impression that they were speaking on Leaseholder Ltd's behalf - leading to my assuming there were across the details of the dispute and therefore were made aware of the mistake/resolution.   I know I'm not totally blameless; I should have realised it was weird getting one bill and then none after but we get so many bills I just pay them as they arrive and move on.   Am I wasting my time, would you all just pay it, charge and all? Seems really unfair given I was under impression I was talking to intermediaries when I wasn't.   Thank you in advance.
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Penalty for unpaid tax

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I bought a secondhand car, insured it via telephone before driving it but then drove it the short distance home to get it taxed on my PC.

 

Due to events not worth going into, I didn't get chance to tax it until a couple of days later (so left it in a garage), which I did.

even so, I've now got a DVLA fine for the car "being used or kept while untaxed in XXXXX Street".

 

Would I be correct in assuming that there is no fighting this one,

that that's it,

i'll just have to pay up because I hadn't yet taxed it on the date in question

(although ironically the tax is backdated to the start of the month when you pay it)?

 

Note also that I'm convinced I never went anywhere near the particular street in which they say I was spotted!

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It sounds as if you have a penalty for "Using or keeping an untaxed vehicle without a SORN" as it was spotted on the street. You now have a chance to settle the out of court penalty otherwise it's a magistrates court fine. If that is not paid, your vehicle will be clamped.

 

If you are certain that you were not on the street mentioned, you can contact the DVLA and argue your case or plead not guilty in court.

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sounds like you were caught by an ANPR dvla contractor


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Thank you for your responses. Can I ask them to send proof that I was on that street? And would it make no difference anyway, since even if I wasn't on that street I evidently hadn't taxed it on the day in question? 

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Did you ever have the car on a street while it was untaxed ?

 

The answer will be yes.

 

In your situation, I think you had to buy the car tax, the same day as you bought the car. Either online or at a post office.

 

You did not do that and the letter suggests evidence of the car being on a street on a day it was not taxed. Ask for evidence if you want, but I would suggest you pay the penalty first to avoid further actions and then query evidence afterwards. 

 

 


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Will do, thanks

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Purely out of curiosity, if I don't pay and go to court will the fine be more if i'm found guilty? 

 

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yes lots more


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