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    • love the extra £1000 charge for confidentialy there BF   Also OP even if they don't offer OOC it doesn't mean your claim isn't good. I had 3 against EVRi that were heard over the last 3 weeks. They sent me emails asking me to discontinue as I wouldn't win. Went infront of a judge and won all 3.    Just remember the law is on your side. The judges will be aware of this.   Where you can its important to try to point out at the hearing the specific part of the contract they breached. I found this was very helpful and the Judge made reference to it when they gave their judgements and it seemed this was pretty important as once you have identified a specific breach the matter turns straight to liability. From there its a case of pointing out the unlawfullness of their insurance and then that should be it.
    • I know dx and thanks again for yours and others help. I was 99.999% certain last payment was over six years ago if not longer.  👍
    • Paragraph 23 – "standard industry practice" – put this in bold type. They are stupid to rely on this and we might as well carry on emphasising how stupid they are. I wonder why they could even have begun to think some kind of compelling argument – "the other boys do it so I do it as well…" Same with paragraph 26   Paragraph 45 – The Defendants have so far been unable to produce any judgements at any level which disagree with the three judgements…  …court, but I would respectfully request…   Just the few amendments above – and I think it's fine. I think you should stick to the format that you are using. This has been used lots of times and has even been applauded by judges for being meticulous and clear. You aren't a professional. Nobody is expecting professional standards and although it's important that you understand exactly what you are doing – you don't really want to come over to the judge that you have done this kind of thing before. As a litigant in person you get a certain licence/leeway from judges and that is helpful to you – especially if you are facing a professional advocate. The way this is laid out is far clearer than the mess that you will get from EVRi. Quite frankly they undermine their own credibility by trying to say that they should win simply because it is "standard industry practice". It wouldn't at all surprise me if EVRi make you a last moment offer of the entire value of your claim partly to avoid judgement and also partly to avoid the embarrassment of having this kind of rubbish exposed in court. If they do happen to do that, then you should make sure that they pay everything. If they suddenly make you an out-of-court offer and this means that they are worried that they are going to lose and so you must make sure that you get every penny – interest, costs – everything you claimed. Finally, if they do make you an out-of-court offer they will try to sign you up to a confidentiality agreement. The answer to that is absolutely – No. It's not part of the claim and if they want to settle then they settle the claim as it stands and don't try add anything on. If they want confidentiality then that will cost an extra £1000. If they don't like it then they can go do the other thing. Once you have made the amendments suggested above – it should be the final version. court,. I don't think we are going to make any more changes. Your next job good to make sure that you are completely familiar with it all. That you understand the arguments. Have you made a court familiarisation visit?
    • just type no need to keep hitting quote... as has already been said, they use their own criteria. if a person is not stated as linked to you on your file then no cant hurt you. not all creditors use every CRA provider, there are only 3 main credit file providers mind, the rest are just 3rd party data sharers. if you already have revolving credit on your file there is no need to apply for anything just 'because' you need to show you can handle money. if you have bank account(s) and a mortgage which you are servicing (paying) then nothing more can improve your score, despite what these 'scam' sites claiml  its all a CON!!  
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Hi guys.

I’m So glad I read this.

 

Long story short,

I’m going back to the shell garage this morning to video myself attempting to make payment of £10 , yes 10 of your finest pounds Stirling to which I assume I will get a knock back.

 

But out of principle , I cannot role over and pay a £6 so called admin fee.

I’ve not contracted with them right ?

I didn’t see the 8” x 6” signage above the pump 🥴 as much as they didn’t see the signage on my dashboard with my terms and conditions and hourly fee for my time spent /wasted , and it’s a fair distance from £6 I can tell ya. !! 

 

  There was no signage on the cash machine stating that the 6 option buttons to the left and right of the screen were not responding, resulting in no options available. Grrrrrrrrr. So I Couldn’t get the big £10 note out.

 

Incidentally for my motability scheme car whilst on way to hospital for my chemo for multiple myeloma an incurable blood cancer which in my case , at 47 years old , it’s  a poor prognosis...... ( facts ) 😢

 

   The cash machine let me down and I head straight into the kiosk to explain to the guys that I will have to drive to another cash machine to get some dollars out, here is my driving license if you wanna keep hold of that so you know I’m coming back. Simples.

 

Now anyone with half a brain and a rough idea of the most basic mathematics , would assume if I can only afford a tenner for fuel then I’m unlikely to be in a position to replace a driving license at what? £80 I’m guessing? 

 

 the guy tried shoving an iPad in my hand and told me I’m to fill out the blanks.

No chance without my readers and the chemo induced peripheral neuropathy in both shaky hands.

 

So I gave my details like  a respectable citizen and he filled it out for...... .........well not....for me.

Even took a happy snap of my mug , car , driving license and receipts for £10 fuel

( which says “”letter of intent” instead of paid ) and I thought well I’ll leave it at that and take it up with fce and off I went. 

 

  So I’ve not signed anything ,

I’ve not committed theft and as far as I can make out from the comments on here that by my entering the forecourt and dispensing fuel I’ve contracted with Shell ?

Right ?

 

So for Shell to uphold their commitment to our contract they are required to accept payment??  

 

   I’ll update my progress later today and possibly video footage 😃👍

 

1 hour ago, Bigkriss said:

 

 

 

As if they are getting a penny.  

I’m registered severely disabled with a motability scheme car and blue badge etc.

Would this have leverage if i use my cancer card.

It’s not often I do but in December last year my prognosis was months not years.  

Max 12 but unlikely.

Again the maths is a simple one.

I won’t be seeing Christmas according to an independent medical expert witness for my nhs-r compensation. ( lnwh admited liability, causation and breach of duty of care,  causing 14 fractured vertebrae, 2 collapsed vertebrae, fractured sternum, plasmacytoma in my skull, loss of sensation in left arm and sever nerve pain and the significant progression of the disease throughout the visualised marrow in the 9 months delayed diagnosis from a previous mri Scan where the radiologist reported prolapsed disk ( which I didn’t have ) and the Myeloma is clearly visible throughout 

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please continue to post here now.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Do me a favour just delete the lot will ya. 

  I’m no good on these things. So been talking to a wall since 7 this morning. 

 Oi ..... you not speak  

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calm down

no-one been around in the forum to sort things

now done.

there is at theend of the day little they can do to you.

i'll post a few links to read in a mo so you can see the MO of what goes on 

most of these get cancelled anyway.

they cant force you to do anything 

and they don't do court neither.

just give them the £10 and be done with it.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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here ya go

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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this is a normal contract for when you forget your wallet and fuel up your car and then promise to pay them later. If you return righ5t away you dotn pay any extra and you can even demand your paperwork back from the garage as they then have no lawful reason to process it.

Now is it a fair contract?

well, yes and no, if you dotn have the means to pay for your fuel before you fill up then you are committing a criminal offence by doing so but as i many cases of this nature the company would rather farm all the aggro out to a third party who then screw you out of money rather than invoke the available law. So, as you werent offered the contract to consider before you fuelled up then none of it is enforceable and the petrol companies should get their heads around this rather than allow the third party just coin money out of the unfortunate or forgetful

 

what I fail to understand is why you didnt just pay for the fuel with the card that you were going to use to get the cash?

As for the rest of your story listing your afflictions , that doesnt make any difference to a contract, if you are not capable of entering a contract you shouldnt be driving either.

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