Counterfeit 16+ Oyster 71 times - TfL refuses OOC settlement

[whatshouldido192]

I'll try to find a way to phrase it nicely 

[Hammy1962]

Do we think he got sent down?

 

H

[dx100uk]

what for 71 no chance ever 

[Hammy1962]

Well, where is he then?

 

H

[whatshouldido192]

Hey guys, I'm here. I've done my court hearing, pay a fine and still wait for the letter from the court, I'm getting a conviction but should be spent in 1 year. They didn't really specify on the day so I'm not too sure

[BazzaS]

https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information--Advice/Visas-and-Immigration/Protecting-your-Tier-4-status

 

see the section on criminal convictions.

Do NOT assume your conviction will be ‘spent’ for immigration purposes if you have to extend your visa / seek ILR. You MUST declare it.

 

Not declaring it and it being found would lead to an absolute refusal and bar you from applying again (for ?10 years?).

[whatshouldido192]

yes, I'm waiting for the letter from the court then I will declare it to the Home office right away

and yes, I understand that i still have to declare under the UK visa application even though it's spent

[whatshouldido192]

Hi guys, so I'm back. Just an update for everyone, so I was at the court and pay my fine (a heaping £800). I didn't have the chance to talk with my prosecutor on the day, I managed to apologise myself on the day so I think that was alright, paid my fine on the day and got a letter confirming that I have paid the fine as well.

 

However, weird thing, I didn't hear the court saying anything about enter in my record at the end of the hearing. And also today I was doing my DBS check and no record showing that I have anything up there, so my record was clear. Do you know if this is a delay or something because it has been 2 months since my court hearing. I also received no letter from the court ever since.

 

Also before the court hearing 1 day, I talked to another solicitor and apparently the charges against me was never supposed to be in my record ( like speeding ticket from what I remembered correctly but seems a little bit bongus tbh)

 

So anyone had any similar experience like this? Should I tick on the box [NO] for criminal record if they asked me in the future as my DBS check shown that my record is clear?

[dx100uk]

Ring the court and ask?

[BazzaS]

You can’t do an enhanced DBS check on yourself.

 

If you don’t declare it and the Home Office find it and conclude you have been dishonest in your declaration : almost certain refusal, and potentially an exclusion period, too.

 

That'd be way worse than declaring it.

If you declare it & get accepted, it can’t later “come back to bite you”. 

Edited September 18, 2019 by BazzaS

[whatshouldido192]

@dx100uk Thank you for the suggestion, so the lady at the court told me that since it's a minor conviction, it won't show under the basic DBS check and usually shown under the enhanced one. She has confirmed it is on my record and I will need to tick if I was asked

 

@BazzaS Thank you, I was confirmed from the lady at court as well. But I just want to reconfirm, I will need to declare it for any visa purposes; but if it's for jobs that doesn't require to (say 1 year from my court date), I won't need to declare it if I'm correct?

[BazzaS]

“Jobs you don’t need to declare it” : so not exempt from Rehab of Offenders legislation

- once it is “spent” you don’t need to declare it.

 

Visa applications (UK and USA) : better to always declare.