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    • Thanks for the welcome Andyorch   dx100uk - I have had 2 previous addresses since coming back to the UK.   Does this mean I should not ignore?   
    • I would be inclined to rip their WS apart. That way, I doubt that VCS would wish to proceed to Court.  In paragraph 5 VCS claim they have full compliance with their Code of Practice for Private Enforcement and Private Land. Really? Can this be the same VCS that was issuing PCNs between 2013 and 2017 knowing that the signage there had not been agreed by Liverpool council and therefore the signage was illegal. Here is an open letter from the Parking Prank   Tuesday, 19 November 2013 An open letter to Simon Renshaw Smith of VCS parking regarding Liverpool John Lennon Airport   19/11/2013 Dear Mr Renshaw Smith,   I wish to draw your attention to the procedural impropriety in your operational activities on the approach roads within Liverpool John Lennon Airport.   You are actively operating under contract to issue civil penalty tickets (PCN’s) for traffic offences on the roads such as stopping at the roadside, whether for seconds, minutes or even longer, or for parking on the roadside verges.   You are doing so based on an allegation of contractual agreement for a breach of parking conditions and are actively sending out a notice to keeper in each case where you ask for the name and address of the driver. You are doing this under the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.   As you are no doubt aware, due to your many years of experience in emptying people’s wallets, where land is governed by byelaws the remedy for any breach of conditions of those byelaws is through the criminal courts, such as a magistrates.   Not only that, since the byelaws set an amount of penalty for failure to comply with them; a further amount based on your own assessment is unlawful at best and perhaps even fraudulent.   A set of the byelaws for the Liverpool Airport have now been obtained from a reliable source, Liverpool City Council,  which sets out the airport’s stance on roadway use, or misuse. It also lays down a penalty upon summary conviction for a breach of the byelaws of £5 for the 1st offence and a further amount of 40 shillings for a continued daily breach.   I put it to you that these byelaws govern the airport’s penalty regime for the alleged contraventions you are enforcing. In fact there is no penalty for stopping at the roadside. There is no offence committed so there can be no penalty unless it can be proven in a magistrate’s court that this action amounted to a failure under para 14: “Driving or placing a vehicle carelessly or dangerously or without due consideration for persons using the airport”   Para 18 gives notice that a “failure by the driver of a vehicle to comply with any direction for the regulation of traffic given by a constable or any person acting on behalf of the council or a traffic sign” will be subject to the penalty regime of the aforementioned £5 plus 40 shillings per day afterwards.   The mention of the traffic signs and the council's part in the overall monitoring means that the signs must be compliant to the TSRGD which are those shown for the public highways; not the ones arbitrarily stuck at the roadside by yourself which are meaningless in the context of the legal status of the byelaws.   Furthermore, POFA 2012 3(1)(c) states that Schedule 4 only applies on land on which the parking of a vehicle is not subject to a statutory control. It further states (3)For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(c) the parking of a vehicle on land is “subject to statutory control” if any statutory provision imposes a liability (whether criminal or civil, and whether in the form of a fee or charge or a penalty of any kind) in respect of the parking on that land of vehicles generally or of vehicles of a description that includes the vehicle in question.   The byelaws state at para 2.19 that the following act is prohibited. The penalty for this is a fine not exceeding five pounds.   POFA 2012 therefore does not apply, and you may therefore only pursue the driver and not the registered keeper. Moreover, you may only pursue them for the sum of five pounds.   Knowingly pursuing the registered keeper when POFA 2012 is an offence which the DVLA take extremely seriously and may ban you from access. The BPA wrote to you in their electronic newsletter this month reiterating this.   I put it to you, Mr Renshaw Smith, that your company is operating unlawfully at the Liverpool Airport site and ask what you intend to do since this has now been brought to your notice.   May I remind you that since this is an unlawful operation, you may well be required at some later time to recompense the amounts of the PCN’s already paid by drivers, and perhaps face tough questions in a court of law, not just a civil court.           Happy Stopping Briefly At the Roadside   The Parking Prankster   The Prankster would like to thank his source for the above   I am sure that you will find other examples of VCS not complying with Code of Conduct or the Law.   And of course VCS do not have the ability to take you to Court because you were a trespasser and only the land owner can take a trespasser to Court.          
    • Yes ...you have it confirmed by the court above that they requested a copy of the Order/Consent on the 2/08/2019....and then requested judgment on 21/08/2019 .
    • blimey J&P   I wonder how many more solicitor firms UAE creditors will try and use as a cheaper alternative to IRDWW and their cohorts that appear to have cost them £1000's in fees for nothing in return.   if this is not a letter of claim  pers i'd ignore them unless you have previous UK addresses since coming to the UK?
    • Thats the idea.....any further flaws with the reconstituted agreement ? They will be able to rely on a recon given that the agreement is post April 2007 but it must be accurate and a true copy of the agreement used from that date.   Andy
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Hello, 

I couldn't find the right forum for this - so please feel free to move it.

 

I want to send a SAR to a voluntary organisation that I volunteered for for over 6 years.

Recently they changed their policies and have been making things very difficult for me and I've decided to leave.

But I want to know what information they hold on me.

 

Do I send them the SAR by Bankfodder that is in the debt forums?

Can I e-mail it instead of sending by post (do I have to sign it?).

 

 

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You could certainly send a copy by email – but of course they are entitled to verify your identity. It might be easier and more straightforward simply to send the request in writing, signed with your usual signature which presumably they are familiar with.


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Thank you - it would be an e-mail sent through the official organisation's e-mail system that only members have access to, and they have been liasing with me via e-mail recently. Are they entitled to request I sign the SAR? As I would prefer not to sign anything. 

 

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Hi, I received this reply today to my dated, signed SAR. I also sent a PDF of the SAR to the people manager via e-mail using the internal e-mail system, and it's been acknowledged so they know it's from me. They are clearly messing me around. 

 

"Dear ****

 

RE: Subject Access Request

 

Thank you for your letter dated 15 May 2019, regarding your request for data, which we received on 20 May 2019. 

 

As you will be aware the timescale to process GDPR (Data Protection Act 2018) Subject Access Requests is one calendar month from the day after which we receive a request. Any personal data that we may hold on you will be sent to you within the permitted time frame. However, to note that before we release any data that we may hold we will need to confirm your identity to ensure that you are entitled to receive the data. 

 

If you have any further questions or comments relating to this matter, please contact us on *email address*. 

 

Yours sincerely, 

*scanned signature*

Name

People manager

Organisation

 

 

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I’m still not sure if this is in the correct forum but if it’s nitvcab it please be moved to the correct forum? Thank you.

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Hi.

 

What is nitvcab please?

 

If you like, we can move your thread to the data protection forum.

 

HB


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I suppose that there is a typo which means "not can".

If you really want to make a point then if you think that they have got enough information to identify you then you could challenge them in court but that will take time.

If you want to make things quick then you could simply send them the information they want.

It would help if you tell us which organisation you are dealing with

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Thanks yes you’re right. 

It was a typo.

I’d rather not type it as it could be traced by them. It’s a first a i -d organisation. 

 

I’m confused about their wording. “However, to note that before we release any data that we may hold we will need to confirm your identity to ensure that you are entitled to receive the data. 

 

If you have any further questions or comments relating to this matter......”

THEY DO NOT STATE HOW THEY INTEND TO CONFIRM IDENTITY or what will happy next.

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From what I've read, it isn't unusual to ask for proof of ID, but I can see you need more information from them about confirming that.

 

Is it possible to ask them how to prove your ID?

 

HB

 

 


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do you not still have your ID card etc etc.

if its whom I think it is and you are thinking of switching 'sides' shall we say .....you are not alone!!

 

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Hi

 

They have acknowledge receipt of your SAR so irrespective that they need to confirm ID the 30 days has started for them to comply with your SAR request.

 

As for the ID, I would simple do as you initially did to request this and ask for clarification as to what they require to confirm said ID.

 

Dear Data Controller

 

Reference: (if a ref given in their letter put here)

 

Further to your letter dated XX/XX/2019, I require further clarification exactly what information you require if you need to 'Confirm my Identity' as this information has not been provided in your letter.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

 

 

 

 

 


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They have not fulfilled the SAR and we’ve heard nothing since they acknowledged it. What next? 

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Complained to the ICO and informed the data controller of this. This morning I had some of my data delivered but it wasn’t even half of what I should have received, for example my contract and letters I’ve sent them. It was all just emails relating to a recent matter! 

What next? 

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