TFL Fare Evasion for 5 months (16+ Oyster)

[dx100uk]

are all the other journeys listed as TIC for you to sign off on?

 

dx

 

[n3014]

2 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Do you have the name of the person at TfL handling your case? If so, you can continue to write and ask for an out of court settlement as well as doing what king12345 suggests on the day. A few people have said recently that they don't have a phone number for the person they would like to contact, maybe you do?

 

HB

I have sent two letters to the person who is dealing with my case. I have asked for an OOC on both occasions but I have been unsuccessful. I did ask for a phone number but was told that discussing the matter over the phone would not change the decision that has been made. 

 

I will definitely pursue what king12345 has suggested. 

[n3014]

1 hour ago, dx100uk said:

are all the other journeys listed as TIC for you to sign off on?

 

dx

 

The other journeys have not been mentioned in any correspondence. Should I write a new letter and enquire about this or wait until the court date? 

[honeybee13]

We normally recommend not to tell TfL anything they don't already know.

 

I would still keep writing to your case handler. TfL seem to be taking a harder line these days, but it's always worth a try.

 

HB

[dx100uk]

god no.

so only the one

thats good news.

 

strange [ to me] they are pushing this to a judge mind.

 

dx

 

 

 

 

[n3014]

I think I made a big mistake in highlighting the extent of use on the first letter I sent to TFL explaining my view of what happened. 

 

57 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

We normally recommend not to tell TfL anything they don't already know.

 

I would still keep writing to your case handler. TfL seem to be taking a harder line these days, but it's always worth a try.

 

HB

I don't know what I would say in mitigation though? I would need pretty strong mitigating circumstances (along with evidence). I am just going to wait until the court date and attempt to plead with the prosecutor. 

[honeybee13]

Do you have a court date yet?

 

You don't need to plead mitigation if you don't have any, you could say what the impact on your future would be, for instance. Have a read of some other TfL threads.

 

HB

[n3014]

Yes the Court date is set for the end of this month. I did state what effect the conviction would have on my career in the mitigating circumstances section of the requisition. 

[dx100uk]

if they have not mentioned the other uses as TIC and only ONE is mentioned in the charge...well done

that's means you say nothing about them nor will they.

they must have their reasons for not stating them, as , they are easily found by usage checks.

 

thank your lucky stars.

 

 

[dx100uk]

mitigation [after the event] is also showing PROOF you now have a paid up season or whatever ticket and are thus cannot avoid or be tempted to do it again.

that has proved a worthy line in the past.

in this case, which again i'm amazed does not include 3mts worth of listed journey's TIC, could be the winner , have you not outlined this to date ?

[n3014]

I was not aware that mitigation can also apply to actions taken after the event.

I have not outlined this to date, I will write another letter stating this given I now use a monthly travel card and would never attempt it again.

 

However, the Court date is in 10 days so I'm not sure I would receive a response in time.. seems to be worth a try though. 

 

Thank you dx100uk. 

[BazzaS]

Regarding "mitigation, actions after the event" : It isn't "mitigation" in the pure legal sense of "actions that will tend to lead to a reduced sentence".

What it might do is show TfL that the likelihood of you re-offending as smaller, so less need to take you to court to achieve that, so greater chance of them agreeing an administrative settlement, so that it never reaches the sentencing phase.

Edited August 18, 2019 by BazzaS

[dx100uk]

and as this was in May ...find and inc proof you've paid monthly since too.

 

it will thus be on record also wont hurt to take a few copies with you just in case

 

obv you gather from this you should plead guilty and state you will be attending to convey to the judge your personal remorse over stupid actons during such a low point in your life.

[dx100uk]

and?