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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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Hi , I’m a childminder and look after lots of lovely children. One of my customers recently left without giving any notice, her financial circumstances had changed but instead of talking to me about  it she decided to try and instigate an argument and use this not to give notice. I refused to give her a refund as I have to pay staff costs etc. This morning I received a letter from Northampton cc stating a claim has been submitted. It’s very badly written and she even states she has decided not to give me the notice period agreed between us. I will respond in the time scale however as she has breached her contract I am considering making a counter claim against her. Can you suggest any reading on this subject how to go about doing it effectively and professionally. I think I remember a while ago you recommend a book on how to make a county court claim 

thanks ELLIE 

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What do you feel she owes you that you want to counterclaim for?

 

if successful, do you think you will be able to enforce any award? (given her financial circumstances have deteriorated!)

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our customers agree to give us three months notice to leave and pay a deposit. This is made very clear when they start. So technically they are liable for three months charges from the day the give notice. Normally though we try and be flexible and would probably agree a week or two to try and  find another coustomer. Some times I might even have a waiting list and just let them go. We employ five staff so the notice period is for stability our costs are very high.

In this case after over a year with no complaints very happy with our service she doesn’t turn up one morning then sends a txt I decided to terminate our agreement you can keep the deposit. Obviously the space goes empty but I still have to pay staff. 

However because this customer pays through a gov tax website , they contribute towards childcare cost the website releases the months fees to us. She demands it back and I refuse. 

No I doubt I would even want to enforce any award and I don’t want to make a claim for three months costs. However she has fired the first shot when I recieved court papers this morning from Northampton. The papers come from The civil Money Claims Service, states we have till the 14th April to respond or a CCJ may be obtained. 

In her reason for the claim she states she no longer needs our services and has decided to terminate our agreement. 

Basically if I have to go to the lengths of going to court to defend this claim I’m going to be looking into enforcing our agreement. 

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Is the deposit less than 3 months worth of fees (again, what is the loss you want to claim for [that you haven’t already had from the deposit])

 

say you succeed in your counterclaim and the court awards you £X (including the claim fee you’ll have to pay).

Will she be able to pay / will the award be able to be enforced?

if she is “pot-less” you may have the award but not be able to enforce it / find that you get £1 per week. You may want to consider if any award would be enforceable before expending the time / energy / cost of a counterclaim.

 

 

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No the deposit isn’t even close , three months fees in this case are around £2700 the deposit is £200. Also due to the rules relating to my business should I have to go to court I would have to close for the day and this would cost in the region of £1000 .

The fact she has started proceedings against me means I will have to defend the case, So I might as well make a counter claim. The best result for me would be for her to just drop it and my thinking hear is that the threat of a counter claim might make her see sense. 

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