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Thank you dx and sorry - I will not to ask any more silly questions..

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A friend (lawyer) sugguested to write below

 

I am willing to make a voluntary payment going far beyond the value of the fare in question that which a court might impose upon conviction, plus any unpaid fare, administrative costs

 

Is this a good idea? Should I just say a voluntary penalty fine + unpaid fare + admin costs?

 

Thank you in advance

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I much prefer

 


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Thank you dx

 

I want to mention:

"I currently pay medical bills for my father, who has suffered from xxx and disabled for a decade."

 

Should I also mention below (as motivation to "save money") or it will be considered as waffle?

"The secured fund which I invested her life's saving, defaulted in 2018, causing huge financial pressure/concern over his long-term medical care."

 

Following the above

 

Is it necessary to mention that I have worked on projects to ensure pensioners interests are protected.

 

Conviction means I can no longer work with these public sector pension as a enhanced dbs is required?

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Hi Greygoat,

 

Just to chime in here, I personally think you're getting anxious about this too much.

 

TfL could call you in for another interview if they believe there's more to this than meets the eye (if there's evidence to suggest this was an on-going series of offences for example, which couldn't immediately be ascertained under questioning). Cross this bridge if and when you come to it and don't give anything away in the meantime.

 

Don't come across that you're trying to make excuses for your actions in any correspondence with TfL. You should apologise  for your actions, and outline you will never do such a thing again. You should then offer meet all their reasonable costs in order to prevent the matter going to court and thus inconveniencing TfL any further.

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Thanks stigy

Nice to see you around again


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Hi Dx, thanks...It's been a while. I'm back and ready to help where I can. can't believe it's been so long since I swung by! Anyway, I digress. Good to be back 😁.

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Me too, nice to see you Stigy. :)

 

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hope you like the new site

 


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48 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Me too, nice to see you Stigy. :)

 

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You too, honeybee!

 

and yes, love the new look site. Wasn’t sure if it was actually new or just that I’ve not been here for ages lol.

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Contents are the same

Just new software moved from v bulletin


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hows this going?

 


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Hi dx, still have not heard back since I replied to their first standard letter - should I just wait or call them proactively?

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that's good but they have 6mts to do 'something'

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Thanks dx, as I read through other case I noticed that offenders will usually be asked for their annual income.

 

Is this info required under certain laws so I should definitely tell TFL when they ask? or when asked by the court? 

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only if it goes court and only on the court form.

 

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, BazzaS said:

 

 

Hi BazzsS

 

I am in a similar situation and have already had my own thread.

 

Just a quick one - do you happen to know if convicted, is this immediately spent or after 12 months? Appreciate your time and thanks in advance!

 

"Contrary to Byelaw 17(1) of the Transport for London Railway Byelaws Made under paragraph 26 of Schedule 11 to the Greater London Authority Act 1999 and confirmed under section 67 of the Transport Act 1962."

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What punishment was imposed?

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22 hours ago, BazzaS said:

What punishment was imposed?

I personally haven't receive anything back from TFL or court summons.

 

I suppose it would be a fine (2 months of misuse) similar to most cases? 

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no its always more than the lost revenue they quote typically + admin cost

and its not a fine, its not been before the magistrate


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thanks dx I am a bit confused here..

 

"not a fine, its not been before the magistrate"

 

as you said always attend the court in person and show remorse and I imagine (base on other cases) there will be financial punishment (unpaid fare, court fees admin and etc) - is this called a fine?

 

Could this contrary to byelaw 17 spent immediately or after 12 months?

 

 

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if you don't settle an OOC before court date or even on the day before you walk in by talking to the TfL prosecutor 

yes it will be a fine, as the magistrate is passing judgement on you.

 

not sure on the time limit TBH various people quote various things

however it is my understanding it is spent after 1yrs.

what does/doesn't not show on various reports again im not sure 

 

I think bazzas quoted it earlier on CAG or someone did.

 

I have known 2 cases now whereby the magistrate themselves have told the recorder the conviction is not to be recorded

and one wherebythe magistrate told TfL to accept the OOC..

so not all is lost

 

 


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thanks dx, yeah it's good to know the hopes and good to prepare for the worst.

 

I will update here once something comes through. thanks again for all your help:)

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