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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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A bit of an update for you all,

 

I completed a N244 change request form and sent it to the court. This was necessary as:

 

A. EMC are not a limited company

B. EMC have stopped trading

 

The court have accepted my request, so the case is now against the parent company. The court and CROWN MOTOR DIRECT LTD now have all the documentation that I will personally present in court on 29th November ( now that I will not be overseas on this date). My claim amount is now FAR more than the purchase price of the vehicle. I'm rather optimistic, and quite looking forward to the hearing in all honesty. 

 

The defendant's never opted for mediation, but I stand to gain much more now through the court anyway. Let's see what goes down in a few weeks. 

 

@ admins. Is it worth changing the thread title to highlight the defendants name change ?

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That's great news. I'm just submitting my court paperwork now. 

 

FYI EMC say they have ceased trading but they have not. They have changed their name to Chobham Central Garage. The new website even lists the same registered company number (which actually belongs to Crown motor direct Ltd). 

 

For anyone that received a letter from EMC Sales saying that they have ceased trading. Do not fall for it. Send all communication to Cmd.fca@hotmail@com 

 

All the garage names are just trading names of Crown Motor Direct Ltd. And according to companies House the company is still active. Hope this helps. 

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Wow guys,
I am not sure where to start. I am glad you have all got further in your cases and I think I need to really take the next steps on mine.

When I was there Nathan was the only name I had who was the person who sold the car to me.
When I picked up the car it was an Irish man who was the manager but I can't remember his name...

Aside from that I have Mikael Shamir the complaints handler. But I am sure you all have his name.

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its a witness statement 

and you are the claimant not the defendant.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 hour ago, SavoyTruffle said:

as part of my defence package

ST is the claimant

doesn't defend anything...

 

bundles to court at the hearing are called witness statements and need to be exchanged 14 days before the hearing date of 14th nov

 

has the defendant contacted you by email at all ST?

but you gave one on the n180?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 hour ago, dx100uk said:

ST is the claimant

doesn't defend anything...

 

bundles to court at the hearing are called witness statements and need to be exchanged 14 days before the hearing date of 14th nov

 

has the defendant contacted you by email at all ST?

but you gave one on the n180?

You're right. I used the incorrect wording, so apologies for the confusion.

 

I've had no email correspondence from them since end of March. I did fill my own email address in on the N180. I can't remember if I added their own email address in though. The form is at home in Scotland, and I'm in Finland right now.

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Is not your ws due today?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I am well shocked reading all this.

 

We had the same situation with EMC Cars over 12 month ago.

The car started to chuckle the same day we picked it up

 

we went to the garage next day to return it and they refused to take it back but they offered to fix it.

After driving 284miles when we were about to take off to the airport the engine did not start. let us completely down.

 

EMC of course refused to take it back or repair it and asked us for the registered engineered report.

After delivering the report to them, they said we can fix it with  provided warranty - but the warranty did not covered it. 

 

What a stressful time we had.

No money, dumped car on our driveway which we could not even move and our garden project had to be postponed as we could not get digger to the rear!

 

 We registered the case with Ombudsman

- it took over 10 months of constant chasing and chasing

 

in the end they said we need to keep this car as the fault could happen within the 280 miles we drove with it!

End of the story.

 

The Autotrader Add said  ( i emailed copy of it to Ombudsman ) car is in excellent condition

- Ombudsman said

- that means for ' their age and millage ' 

 

One total joke!

They were giving week after week for the EMC to reply to them and that is why it took so long.

 

Now: We had to buy another car for the time being and now trying to sell the one from EMC cars with is already worth GBP 1500 less!!

 

Why they go away with this all???

Take the money and laugh???

And the consumer has to pay the huge price for it???

 

 Where is the law?

 

I am wonder how your court case goes.

Please let us know! It may give me the power to register our case with court as well!

Good luck!

 

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All of these cases need to be declared to citizens advice. 

 

Speak to an advisor and tell them what happened, ask for the case to be referred to trading standards. Crown motor direct (emc car sales and now chobham Central garage) have gotten away with this for too long. 

 

I have also sent my story to the Surrey advertiser newspaper. 

 

Oh and make sure your financial claim is submitted too. If you don't and Crown motor direct enters an insolvency agreement, you won't be listed as a creditor and will find it very hard to get even a fraction of your money. 

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Hi

 

good idea I have already had them referred to trading standards about a month ago and I contacted the ombudsman but they’re not registered with them unlike it says on their sales invoice

 

. I’m definitely happy to write to BBC watchdog as Want them to pay for what they have done

 

It really is disgusting and so dangerous selling cars that are not even roadworthy

 

. I had my six-year-old daughter in the car with my clutch went on a busy 4 lane road. 
 

I phoned citizens advice yesterday to see if I could try to recoup any of my costs and they is advised that because it wasn’t a limited company my only hope was to try and contact the insolvency department but I don’t remain hopeful.

 

 

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Hi 

 

How can I prove that EMC car sales is just a trading name of Crown Motor Direct Limited? I am asking as I am waiting for a date of hearing against EMC but they cesead trading and we don't know what to do next?

 

Thanks 

Bench

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If they are T/A then they cant avoid any legal claims against EMC under the new name

Someone needs to send in HCEO and seize assets.

 

Dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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That's why I changed the name on my claim to CROWN MOTOR DIRECT LTD. It cost me £100 to do. 

 

I've a few hundred to add to the final bill yet. Roll on end November.. 

4 hours ago, Bench123 said:

Hi 

 

How can I prove that EMC car sales is just a trading name of Crown Motor Direct Limited? I am asking as I am waiting for a date of hearing against EMC but they cesead trading and we don't know what to do next?

 

Thanks 

 

 

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AFAIK if the register shows T/A an old name it doesn't matter

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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