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    • For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]       please answer the following questions.       1 Date of the infringement  10/07/2019       2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]  12/07/19      3 Date received  13/07/19      4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?/    Yes      5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?  yes      6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]  yes  Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up  yes      7 Who is the parking company?  Civil enforcement      8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]    10B QUEENS ROAD, CONSETT, DH8 0BH       For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. Yes    …………………..     This is what I sent to CE appeal in my own words   Reason For Appeal: Firstly I had an appointment at that time with the dentist. My last visit 2 years ago the car park was free and was not aware of the new parking system.   The sign at the front is very obscure especially turning right into the car park. Where I did park, the sign opposite was turned 90 degrees making it hard to see.   The door at the surgery was wedged open when I entered not realizing there was a sign relating to the new system . I cannot remember if there was any signs inside the surgery but once in I always pick up a magazine to read until the dentist is ready to see me.      My statement and evidence to POPLA. in response to CE evidence highlighting main arguments.   Par 18 . The image submitted from the Appellant of a sign slightly turned is still readable and is not obscured...….. Me Not from where I was parked. A photo from the bay shows a pole with the sign facing away.  Par 18 . Furthermore, it highlights that the Appellant was aware of the signage on the site and failed to comply with the terms and conditions regardless.......  Me I treat this paragraph with contempt. There is nothing to "highlight" here as I maintain I did not see any signage; Regardless ? I could have legally parked right outside the Surgery as there were spaces at the time but having "regard" for disabled and elderly, parked further away having to cross a busy road to the Surgery. Par 20....,. Furthermore, the Appellant failed to utilise the operator’s helpline phone number,,, (displayed at the bottom of signage) to report the occurrence, or to request advice on what further action could be taken.... Me How could I have done this ? I only realized there were signs there when the PCN arrived. Summary. I stand by statements and maintain that I did not see any signage entering or leaving the car park. The main sign at the entrance is too small and easily missed when you have to turn right though busy traffic and once through carefully avoid pedestrians, some walking their dogs. The main sign is blank at the back. When you leave the car park I would have noticed the private parking rules if the writing was on both sides. Roadworks signs close to the parking sign at the time did not help either. [see photo] CE evidence is flawed, illegal and contemptuous. Photos submitted are from months ago, Today I have driven into the car park and noticed the same signs turned 90 degrees including the one opposite my bay. CE have done nothing to rectify this disregarding my evidence and the maintenance of the car park. Showing number plates is a total disregard to patients privacy and I object to these photos being allowed as evidence on the grounds that they may be illegal.    POPLAS assessment and decision....unsuccessful   Assessor summary of operator case   The operator states that the appellant’s vehicle was parked on site without a permit. It has issued a parking charge notice (PCN) for £100 as a result. Assessor summary of your case   The appellant states that he parked on site to attend a dental appointment. He states that the terms of the site had changed since the last time he parked two years ago. He states that signage at the entrance to and throughout the site did not make the terms clear. The appellant has provided various photographs taken on and around the site. Assessor supporting rational for decision   The appellant accepts that he was the driver of the vehicle on the date in question. I will therefore consider his liability for the charge as the driver.   The operator has provided photographs of the appellant’s vehicle taken by its automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras. These photographs show the vehicle entering the site at 14:17 and leaving the site at 15:13. It is clear that the vehicle remained on site for a period of 56 minutes.   Both the appellant and operator have provided photographs of the signs installed on the site. The operator has also provided a site map showing where on site each sign is located.   Having reviewed all of the evidence, I am satisfied that signage at the entrance to the site clearly states: “Permit Holders Only … See car park signs for terms and conditions”.   Signs within the site itself clearly state: “DENTAL PRACTICE PERMIT HOLDERS ONLY … ALL PATIENTS AND VISITORS MUST REGISTER FOR A PERMIT AT THE PRACTICE RECEPTION ... IF YOU BREACH ANY OF THESE TERMS YOU WILL BE CHARGED £100.”   The signs make the terms of parking on the site clear, are placed in such a way that a motorist would see the signs when parking and are in line with the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice.   The operator has provided evidence to show that a search for the appellant’s vehicle has been carried out against the list of vehicles for which a valid permit was held on the date in question. The appellant’s vehicle does not appear on this list.   The appellant states that he parked on site to attend a dental appointment . I accept that this may have been the case, however I do not accept that this entitled the appellant to park on site outside of the terms.   The appellant states that the terms of the site had changed since the last time he parked two years ago. The operator’s photographs of the signage on site are dated 27 March 2019.   It is clear based on these photographs that the terms had been in place for at least three months by the time the appellant parked, which I am satisfied was a reasonable period for any regular user of the site to adapt to any change to the terms.   The appellant states that signage at the entrance to and throughout the site did not make the terms clear. He has provided various photographs taken on and around the site.   As detailed above, I am satisfied based on the evidence as a whole that signage made the terms sufficiently clear. I am satisfied from the evidence that the terms of the site were made clear and that the appellant breached the terms by parking without registering for a permit.   I am therefore satisfied that the PCN was issued correctly and I must refuse this appeal.   docs1.pdf
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Park watch windscreen PCN [but none on windscreen!] - now reminder letter - castledene shopping centre

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Today my daughter opened a letter from park watch that states she has an overdue parking ticket of £100 for 'unauthorised parking', do they provide photo evidence, this is purely because their was no actual ticket on her car so she was unaware until this letter arrived

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You mean she has a notice to keeper


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Its a parking charge notice, they have sent a letter stating the pcn is overdue she must pay the total of £100 now, there was no ticket on her screen so until this letter she was unaware of any ticket at all

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sounds like an ANPR capture to me?

 

can you complete this:

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/391121-have-you-received-a-parking-ticket/

and scan up bothsides of the letter to ONE pdf read upload


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Ive added the letter, there was no actual ticket on her screen, ive blocked her personal details unless you need them, this is the first letter from them, i have not replied and have not tried to have the charge dropped, they have gone to the dvla and however they have done it, have managed to get her address, i do not know if theres pictures, this is the only letter

 

 

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Dx100uk thankyou, whats the best action to take

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there is a link in post 4

can you please complete it so we have all the required information to allow users to properly advise you

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For a windscreen ticket (Notice To Driver) please answer the following questions....

1 The date of infringement? 29th january 2019, (No ticket left on window)

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] N

if you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it,
suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide nothing as yet

has there been a response?
please post it up as well, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide] nothing as yet

If you haven't appealed yet - ,......... Not appealed

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] what date is on it 28th february 2019

Parking notice arrived 1st march 2019

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? No


3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] Y

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,


did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?
[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances]  Not yet

5 Who is the parking company? Park Watch


6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park?  Castledene Shopping Centre, store delivery area, for commercial vehicles, however everyone parks there

 

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thread title updated for clarity.

aha ye ole vanishing windscreen ticket trick.

I will suspect that this was a CCTV detection not ANPR capture, hence the +29days, ans the CCTV cannot legally be used for this purpose hence they are claiming a vanishing windscreen ticket as theres no operator on site but viewing the CCTV many miles away.

let me go look at the history of tickets from them here

might give us a few clues...


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Hi, any thoughts about this ticket, im worrying about it, thankyou

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DO NOT RESPOND to it, the "disappearing ticket" is a well known trick by some parking co's to get out of offering a discount period and to limit any appeal. Post up the NTK letter and we will advise what to do but the chances are that she wont be appealing at all and the NTK is defective.

Now the reason they say she owes money isnt a lawful reason as they are claiming prohibition and you cant agree to break the law.

the aprking co know that most peopel want t6o resolve this matter quickly but they wont want to admit they are crooks and incompetent ones at that so they will reject your appeal and tell you that you will owe them more money f you dotn pay up by a certain date. Again this isnt true but they hope you dotn know that either.

let them waste their time and money chasing this up but in the meanwhiel can you or your daughter go back there and get some pictures of the signage and the place where she parked? we need to see the entrance to the land from the public highway whether there are signs present or not and any other different sign in the place. if there is a prking meter we want pictures of that along with the detail of any blurb on the meter as that will be the actual contract, not the signs scatted about

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Hi, thankyou for your advice, i have an update on the 'Parking ticket', my daughter emailed them, (i did ask her not to) if i upload the following emails can you change them for me again, thanks

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when did this happen?

this is a problem with using chinese whispers to do anything. get her to  sign up and take over this thread unless it is your vehicle. if it is your vehicle then she will need advice as to how to deal withthis now she has dropped herself in it.

We always say NEVER EMAIL anyone and never appeal before we have had a chance to point out the pros and cons of doing so.

the other thing you will note about most of the reguilasr is we dont use our real names as our login. This is for many reasons so it would be wise to alter yours adn when your daughter signs up doesnt use her name either.

as I was composing this your posted again so it is now apparently all sorted.

i would still reregister with a pseudonym for the next time though.

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Hi.

I've had to remove three of your attachments because the name of your daughter is on there.

HB


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Ah thanks, im not that technical, it is apparently sorted, just incase anyone else gets intouch regarding the same company, my daughter emailed them asking for photographic proof, they then cancelled the parking fine within 36minutes of her asking, i appreciate everyones replies and i hope no one else gets caught out with this company

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parking fine?

 

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The letter was sent to my daughter saying she had ignored the first parking ticket, they hadnt put one on her car  she emailed them to ask them to provide photgraphic proof, they obviously didnt have any proof and cancelled the £100 they were asking for, thanks everyone

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