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    • For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]       please answer the following questions.       1 Date of the infringement  10/07/2019       2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]  12/07/19      3 Date received  13/07/19      4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?/    Yes      5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?  yes      6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]  yes  Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up  yes      7 Who is the parking company?  Civil enforcement      8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]    10B QUEENS ROAD, CONSETT, DH8 0BH       For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. Yes    …………………..     This is what I sent to CE appeal in my own words   Reason For Appeal: Firstly I had an appointment at that time with the dentist. My last visit 2 years ago the car park was free and was not aware of the new parking system.   The sign at the front is very obscure especially turning right into the car park. Where I did park, the sign opposite was turned 90 degrees making it hard to see.   The door at the surgery was wedged open when I entered not realizing there was a sign relating to the new system . I cannot remember if there was any signs inside the surgery but once in I always pick up a magazine to read until the dentist is ready to see me.      My statement and evidence to POPLA. in response to CE evidence highlighting main arguments.   Par 18 . The image submitted from the Appellant of a sign slightly turned is still readable and is not obscured...….. Me Not from where I was parked. A photo from the bay shows a pole with the sign facing away.  Par 18 . Furthermore, it highlights that the Appellant was aware of the signage on the site and failed to comply with the terms and conditions regardless.......  Me I treat this paragraph with contempt. There is nothing to "highlight" here as I maintain I did not see any signage; Regardless ? I could have legally parked right outside the Surgery as there were spaces at the time but having "regard" for disabled and elderly, parked further away having to cross a busy road to the Surgery. Par 20....,. Furthermore, the Appellant failed to utilise the operator’s helpline phone number,,, (displayed at the bottom of signage) to report the occurrence, or to request advice on what further action could be taken.... Me How could I have done this ? I only realized there were signs there when the PCN arrived. Summary. I stand by statements and maintain that I did not see any signage entering or leaving the car park. The main sign at the entrance is too small and easily missed when you have to turn right though busy traffic and once through carefully avoid pedestrians, some walking their dogs. The main sign is blank at the back. When you leave the car park I would have noticed the private parking rules if the writing was on both sides. Roadworks signs close to the parking sign at the time did not help either. [see photo] CE evidence is flawed, illegal and contemptuous. Photos submitted are from months ago, Today I have driven into the car park and noticed the same signs turned 90 degrees including the one opposite my bay. CE have done nothing to rectify this disregarding my evidence and the maintenance of the car park. Showing number plates is a total disregard to patients privacy and I object to these photos being allowed as evidence on the grounds that they may be illegal.    POPLAS assessment and decision....unsuccessful   Assessor summary of operator case   The operator states that the appellant’s vehicle was parked on site without a permit. It has issued a parking charge notice (PCN) for £100 as a result. Assessor summary of your case   The appellant states that he parked on site to attend a dental appointment. He states that the terms of the site had changed since the last time he parked two years ago. He states that signage at the entrance to and throughout the site did not make the terms clear. The appellant has provided various photographs taken on and around the site. Assessor supporting rational for decision   The appellant accepts that he was the driver of the vehicle on the date in question. I will therefore consider his liability for the charge as the driver.   The operator has provided photographs of the appellant’s vehicle taken by its automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras. These photographs show the vehicle entering the site at 14:17 and leaving the site at 15:13. It is clear that the vehicle remained on site for a period of 56 minutes.   Both the appellant and operator have provided photographs of the signs installed on the site. The operator has also provided a site map showing where on site each sign is located.   Having reviewed all of the evidence, I am satisfied that signage at the entrance to the site clearly states: “Permit Holders Only … See car park signs for terms and conditions”.   Signs within the site itself clearly state: “DENTAL PRACTICE PERMIT HOLDERS ONLY … ALL PATIENTS AND VISITORS MUST REGISTER FOR A PERMIT AT THE PRACTICE RECEPTION ... IF YOU BREACH ANY OF THESE TERMS YOU WILL BE CHARGED £100.”   The signs make the terms of parking on the site clear, are placed in such a way that a motorist would see the signs when parking and are in line with the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice.   The operator has provided evidence to show that a search for the appellant’s vehicle has been carried out against the list of vehicles for which a valid permit was held on the date in question. The appellant’s vehicle does not appear on this list.   The appellant states that he parked on site to attend a dental appointment . I accept that this may have been the case, however I do not accept that this entitled the appellant to park on site outside of the terms.   The appellant states that the terms of the site had changed since the last time he parked two years ago. The operator’s photographs of the signage on site are dated 27 March 2019.   It is clear based on these photographs that the terms had been in place for at least three months by the time the appellant parked, which I am satisfied was a reasonable period for any regular user of the site to adapt to any change to the terms.   The appellant states that signage at the entrance to and throughout the site did not make the terms clear. He has provided various photographs taken on and around the site.   As detailed above, I am satisfied based on the evidence as a whole that signage made the terms sufficiently clear. I am satisfied from the evidence that the terms of the site were made clear and that the appellant breached the terms by parking without registering for a permit.   I am therefore satisfied that the PCN was issued correctly and I must refuse this appeal.   docs1.pdf
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Hi guys,

help please,

 

I have received a parking charge notice from parking eye, at Asda Wrexham.

 

It offers a discount if paid within 14 days. should I pay this?

 

What a diabolical trick!

 

such nice way to thank you for spending your hard earned cash with Asda!

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What was the invoice for?


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A parking Charge Notice

Thanks Honeybee,

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 29th January 2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 1st Feb 2019

 

3 Date received 7th Feb 2019

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? yes

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A

 

7 Who is the parking company? Parking Eye

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Asda Car Park, Wrexham LL13 8HL

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. Popla

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could you scan up the NTK both sides please to one multipage PDF

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what was the supposed breach of contract?

usually an overstay so if that is the case firstly phone up Asda customer services and moan at them and ask them to get it cancelled.

 

i the permitted stay is stupidly short

it may be worth checking with the local council whether there is anything in the planning consent that actually limits the free parking period.

Often with Asda they had 3 hours as part of the planning application and that means neither PE nor Asda may unilaterally change that.

 

They brought in parking control at Asda's in Caterham some years ago ( ex somerfield) and people complained to the council.

the council told Asda that the free parking was set by the planning permission at that and no they couldnt vary it without going back to a full planning hearing and the council would shut the store until that was held if they felt so strongly about limiting the parking.

 

Funnily enough the parking co just walked away as they realised they were never going to make a penny from the contract if they werent allowed to create conditions that suited them rather than the customers.

 

Asda will be sensitive to this so dont accept a response of you must take it up with the parking co.

If they refuse to get the ticket cancelled then you ask for the address of the CEO so you can write in and complain and could you have their name so it is clear who you spoke to before writing.

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Am going to Wrexham today and will be visiting ASDA, will try to get some pics of their signage if you like.


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that will help but OP telling us what it is they claim has done wrong is essential. that will be on their NTK

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Hi guys,

would just like to say thank you all so much, not just for your knowledge and experience but for being there so fast. I have taken ericksbrother's advise used the links and made contact with Asda customer service who told me "that Asda do not own the car park, it is owned by parking eye" I used all the advice of being extra polite and asked to speak to a manager/supervisor . which she would not do, in the end she put me through to the store. If you stay polite and courteous but will not go away it seems to stress them a little. The customer service person I spoke to at the store asked who informed me about the ownership of the car park I told her and she confirmed that was head office. I explained my plight and she asked if I had ever had a parking notice before, I explained I had not and she said bring the notice into the store and they will cancel as a one off as they can as there was not a previous ticket.

I don't want to get all juicy but the community you have here is special, as the public are bombarded every minute of every day by people trying to score a try off our hard earned incomes and I was all but ready to pay these pirates.

thank again CAG. I will split the charge and send a donation.

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That is good news as it takes the pressure of you altogether. It is a shame that more people do not complain to Asda so they understand what a bunch of crooks they have hired to rip off their customers.

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Thank you very much for the donation :D it will help us to keep helping people like yourself.

 

I'd be surprised if PE own the car park btw, they don't normally.

 

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PE DONT own the car park, what the CS person was saying badly is that they have been given the management rights and their word is final. Unfortunately it just isnt true but you can bet that Asda get a lot of complaints about parking and probably more than they do about anything else but they will never admit that they made a bad decision bringing them in to begin with.

Glad that route 1 scored your goal, I wish it was like that all of the time but as you have seen first hand, they try to deflect the problem.

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