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    • “Variola may have been introduced to humans through such a cross-species transfer” “It is closest in DNA sequence to camelpox virus, which causes smallpox-like disease in camels; both viruses are apparently descended from a recent common ancestor.” https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/38/6/882/321153   To re-read. Frankly anyone who thinks the WHO, CDC and UK Gov recommendation of 14 days is anything other than a sensible minimum, is a dangerous idiot IMO, particularly given the apparent extremely fast mutation rate being reported ...  and ability to jump species         Mutation of Smallpox **********************   "Clinical descriptions indicate that smallpox always had a high case-fatality rate until around the end of the 19th Century, when a more benign form of the disease, with a similar rash but much lower mortality rate, appeared in the Western Hemisphere. Less lethal types of smallpox were also noted in Africa, where they may have existed for some time [5]. These milder variants are now designated “variola minor,” in contrast to the traditional “variola major.” The genetic changes responsible for attenuation have not been identified. https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/38/6/882/321153   Interestingly cowpox was used as a relatively effective ‘vaccine’ against smallpox, and monkeypox seems to be ‘expanding’ to fill the nasty nitch that smallpox existed in. Note That although smallpox and monkeypox are often talked about in the same breath, and are often considered closely related, despite monkeypox, camelpox and Cowpox vaccines’ effectiveness against smallpox and each other, the genetics of smallpox and monkeypox have been examined and they are not believed to be actually genetically ‘related’. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox   … On the other hand Camelpox and Smallpox on more recent examination are believed to be VERY closely related: “Variola may have been introduced to humans through such a cross-species transfer” (like Coronavirus) It (smallpox) is closest in DNA sequence to camelpox virus, which causes smallpox-like disease in camels; ***** both viruses are apparently descended from a recent common ancestor.” "The appearance of variola minor may represent a stage in variola's adaptation to its human host." https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/38/6/882/321153       Possible sources of fresh smallpox outbreaks ************************************************ Lots of references say things like smallpox has been ‘entirely eliminated from the world’ when it clearly still exists. ‘Eradicated’ should be qualified as being ‘from the living human poplation. Even whether ‘carriers’ exist is unknown.   * ‘Officially’ (WHO approved) in 2 labs - which means little to weapons programs or nature itself - Accidents and misplacing links already supplied.   * Unofficially it is claimed to be held in other bio-weapons labs: Just two links of many: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_biological_weapons_program https://www.news-medical.net/health/Smallpox-Biological-Warfare.aspx   * Animal hosts and species jumping of genetically similar Virus like Camelpox.   * thousands of Inuit infected bodies across the melting areas of the melting Northern ice and peat bogs and tar pits around the world. http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/24/575974220/are-there-zombie-viruses-in-the-thawing-permafrost?t=1580114743932     in the summer of 2016 a large anthrax outbreak struck Siberia. "A heat wave in the Arctic thawed a thick layer of the permafrost, and a bunch of reindeer carcasses started to warm up. The animals had died of anthrax, and as their bodies thawed, so did the bacteria. Anthrax spores spread across the tundra. Dozens of people were hospitalized, and a 12-year-old boy died.   On the surface, it looked as if zombie anthrax had somehow come back to life after being frozen for 70 years. What pathogen would be next? Smallpox? The 1918 flu?"      
    • Alleged offence 28/07/2019 SJPN Posting Date 17/01/2020    
    • Thank you .. I will give them a chase today ..
    • What was the date of the alleged offence and what was the date on the SJPN? Nothing else matters.
    • The NIP was received on 7/08/2019 I returned it on 8/08/2018 along with GDPR. The prosecution witness statement was signed the 18/01/2020 papers received 24/01/2020 allowing for deemed service of 2 days each way id say there an about 6 months 
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Incontro

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you [a member of joe public]...against perhaps rather savy and manipulative solicitors for the fleecers well vested in pulling every stroke under the sun, [including in some cases -those on a golf course with certain judges= judge lottery comments] and very familiar with multiple PPC cases.

 

allocation fees are not paid until it is physically allocated [via an n157] to a real court - that being your selected local County court in your N180.

 

CCBC is not a real court, its a the bulk clearing court that deals with some 750'000+ speculative claims every year, whereby only 15% or less are ever defended by the defendant. there is a fee payable to raise the claim.

 

 

 

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Update: PE has since sent their defence in the post, quite a few pages, but nothing stands out as unexpected/tricky or beyond some of what I've seen in other standard defenses from them (at least based on a quick glance, going to make time to read it in more detail and prepare a response during xmas hols).

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you mean they've sent their witness statement?

a claimant doesn't file a defence, the defendant does - as you did months ago.

 

scan it ALL upto one multipage PDF including the exhibits, but we don't need each exhibit cover sheet.

carefully read our upload guide

 

dx

 

 

 


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yes, sorry meant witness statement

 

will post up soon

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you must pay attention to these things, they will seize any opportunity to get one over on you as their claim itself is tenuous to say the least

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Witness statement: 

 

The particulars are first few pages which are in link above, then there are copies of docs/claim forms prev sent to me (not included), then there are exhibits (site plan, copies of signage) - will post the exhibits up soon.

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I will gather you did not try and change or amend your defence filed by MCOL?

 

most of that so far in immaterial twaddle quoting cases that do not apply to this case.

 

 


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On 28/04/2019 at 15:47, Incontro said:

Update: so after I sent my response (basically a slightly more detailed version of EB's letter) well before the Easter Hol, after some radio silence I finally got a response a couple days back from PE.

 

Basically a (politely worded) letter this time, thanking me for my correspondence in relation to the parking charge, and saying it has been forwarded onto their privacy team.

 

Happy to post the full letter up here, but just seems like a standard template/acknowledgement of response letter, so the waiting game continues...

 

BR

 

we need to SEE this letter

 

you DID mention byelaws didn't you?


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6 minutes ago, dx100uk said:

I will gather you did not try and change or amend your defence filed by MCOL?

 

most of that so far in immaterial twaddle quoting cases that do not apply to this case.

 

 

 

no i submitted your suggested defence almost word for word

 

yep, it's waffle indeed, most of it isn't even relevant to this case

 

1 minute ago, dx100uk said:

 

we need to SEE this letter

 

you DID mention byelaws didn't you?

 

ok, will also post that up with the exhibits soon, but i think it's either an admin error on their end, or just a standard template doc sent out without much regard, there's nothing pertinent in there

 

double checked my letter (the one EB advised on), and yes certainly did mention byelaws and lack of keeper liability

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then it puzzles me why PE have sent a response to your defence..totally pointless and never seen before.

 

unless ofcourse they are going to try the nonsence like trumps lot keep trying to pull during these funny impeachment hearings:

 

your honour point of order...

the defendant is bring up byelaws, they didn't mention them in their defence ,.,not allowed. baw baw baw 

which ofcourse you have, but not specifically...

 

are PE that dumb?

 


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Claimants can make a response to a defence...not all do...nor are they required to....but they can....and if they do.....

 

Reply to defence

15.8  If a claimant files a reply to the defence, the claimant must

(a) file the reply with a directions questionnaire; and

(b) serve the reply on the other parties at the same time as it is filed.

(Rule 26.3(1) and (6) requires the parties to file directions questionnaires and specifies the period for doing so).

(Part 22 requires a reply to be verified by a statement of truth)

 

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49 minutes ago, dx100uk said:

then it puzzles me why PE have sent a response to your defence..totally pointless and never seen before.

 

unless ofcourse they are going to try the nonsence like trumps lot keep trying to pull during these funny impeachment hearings:

 

your honour point of order...

the defendant is bring up byelaws, they didn't mention them in their defence ,.,not allowed. baw baw baw 

which ofcourse you have, but not specifically...

 

are PE that dumb?

 

 

I think you are confusing some things here...?

 

PE did NOT send a response to my defence (the MCOL defence submitted, that you provided advice on).

 

Their response was to my letter (which was in response to their Letter Before Claim)

 

Hope that makes sense

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All - ignore my previous post.

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PE Exhibits (showing signage, car park layout etc.), as sent in their response to my defence.

 

Sorry for the late reply. I will start wording up draft witness statement (by bullet points) this weekend. In the meantime, any tips/pointers for my WS will be hugely appreciated.

 

Claimants_WS.pdf

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you must exploit the bye laws.

PE cant enforce anything .


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I will make one other observation here having read the whole post and converted all dos to PDF here rather than hosting sites.....

 

all through this thread you have

done your own thing numerous times

not followed advice

adapted letters and sent others when not advised too.

 

please make sure you follow the advice given upon what to put in your WS to the letter and don't 'do your own thing'.

you risk screwing this up if you get your WS and the understanding or why you are stating what you are wrong.

 

dx

 


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