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    • Thanks DX.  I've ploughed through the pages and dug out what I feel are the relevant ones. Obviously, some of these are duplicates of what I've put up before.  Anyway, I would be hugely grateful if someone can look over and advise. Reading though other posts and on other cases that I've had help with from here, I don't think they have much of a case - given the weakness of much of their "evidence" - but obviously I would be grateful for some expert advice from the helpful souls on here.    Thank you.    B   Witness Oct19_redacted.pdf
    • You came here for advice, soem advice has been given adn you question the validity and source of that advice. We are all lay peopele, ie not giving professional advice but it is based on experience of the world and in some cases working in the field that advice is given on. Now you dont have to take our advice, we wont get the huff if you prefer to look elsewhere or do something else. when I asked what you think they would do with your NI number it is to prod you to think for yourself and question why they would ask for this when there is nothing legal they can do with the information so wouild you be wnating to give it to them knowing that they would want it to break the law if they processed it. Now you can take that up with the company at the top but TBH unless you want to spend money on a lawyer they will not answer the question or fob you off with some ridiculous answer anyway.   so for the moment read a lot about  RLP and similar situations to yours ans make particular note of what happened to the peopel in the end. You will find no threads theat ended by saying " thanks to you I gor sued by RLP and owe them a fortune". It isnt going to happen and the reasons why are explained in many threads. They rely on your feeling of guilt to get anywhere
    • you need to respond to their letter saying that you belive that you ahve been paid correctly ( or underpaid if you are due a small amount of accrued holiday pay etc) and demand that they show a full account of what you received, when and why and how they arrived at this figure. You then reconcile that with your P45 and use the figures to bat off any furhter demands if they still akke one. Come back if they dotn drop the matter and give us the full breakdown on hours worked, hourly rate, gross pay, tax paid  etc
    • @dx100ukI never got a response to my SAR from Octopus.   But I have just received a 'letter before court action' from one of their legal representatives, who have been "instructed to consider legal action against [me] if full payment, a settlement or your proposals to make suitable repayments arrangements are not received in the next 30 days."   I'm reading the threads now. Any advice on how to proceed? 
    • I would say let them do their worst, it will surely backfire on them. Now with restrictive contracts that stop you working fro competitors- these are notoriously vague so often not worth the paper they are written on. also they have to be fair so for example if there are only 2 companies in the UK that make a certain product your employer cant say you arent allowed to work for the other one. If you were for example trained as a hairdersser and you were going to open a salon in the next street to your ex employer then the restriction would apply if worded correctly. Dont panic about this, your new employer will be au fait with the situation and time spent worrying about a nastly letter will in their eyes take you eye off the ball so concentrate on the new job.
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shoplifted 6yrs ago, paid RLP, now after a job - do i have to declare the incident?

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Hello everyone,

 

I am new to this Forum, so not entirely sure how to start a new thread.

 

I have had similar incident back in 2013, I was caught in TK MAXX, got excluded and then of course, because I felt so guilty and scared have paid RLP fine immediately, which I believe was £179. No police was involved, just shop exclusion form and I think Shopping-centre exclusion.

 

Now 6 year later, I am going through Management Vetting process for Police and wondering if that incident would show up? Considering that it is a very thorough check.

 

I am very embarrassed of course, but I have learned from that experience and have not done anything like that again.

I am thinking of coming clean, however would not want to embarrass myself for no reason.

 

Please, has anyone been through similar process? Would that be on police register? would it show up?

 

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It will NEVER show. Police were not involved at all, so theres no possible way they could ever know about it.

 

remember, RLP have absolutely nothing to do with the UK legal system or criminal system. They are just a random company trying to grab money off vulnerable people.

 

Infact, iirc, a police organisation demanded that RLP stop saying they were associated with them. RLP still continued to alledge an association months later.

 

It was also not a fine, and they could never have done anything. You got conned by them. Thats all.

 

Relax, breathe and go forward with yoru application, knowing nothing stands in your way.


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Yes I understand that and thank you for your reply. It is just that there is a section that states:

Have you ever been- Investigated, arrested, summonsed, charged, cautioned, convicted for any offence by any UK or non-UK Police Force, Law Enforcement Agency or any other statutory prosecuting authority or agency.

 

Received a warning, final warning, reprimand, fixed penalty notice for disorder or other fixed penalty notice as an adult or juvenile?

 

 

And that seems very thorough...

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And your answer will be no. Because you havent. A private company has no authority at all. They are referring to the UK criminal justice system.

 

You havent been in trouble with any of them via the shoplifting incident. RLP IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ANY UK LEGAL SYSTEM. And they NEVER will be.

 

If youve been int rouble with the police at another time, then thats for a different topic. But for this one, you can confidently say no.


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Have you ever been- Investigated, arrested, summonsed, charged, cautioned, convicted for any offence by any UK or non-UK Police Force, Law Enforcement Agency or any other statutory prosecuting authority or agency.

 

The key part of this is "...by any UK or non-UK Police Force, Law Enforcement Agency or any other statutory prosecuting authority or agency." Are TK Maxx any of those? No. Are RLP any of those? No. Were any of those involved in the 2013 incident? No. So your correct answer is 'No'.

 

 

Have you ever...

Received a warning, final warning, reprimand, fixed penalty notice for disorder or other fixed penalty notice as an adult or juvenile?

 

All of those are formal sanctions that can only be imposed by the UK judicial system. Have any of them been imposed on you as a result of the 2013 incident? No. So your correct answer is 'No'.

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Hi and welcome to CAG.

 

I heartily agree with the other comments so far. No police involvement-you can state no!

 

The police would never ask RLP for their data as these are only alleged events, not proven criminal events and as it was about 6 years ago, that data should have been removed by now so nothing to stress over.

 

Go, fill the forms in truthfully-which is what your answers will be and be and hopefully you will enjoy a career in the police service.:-D


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RLP have conned you out of £170 odd,

do you think they are really going to then get themselves a fine of £100k just to try and drop you in it by telepathy?

They have nothing to do with the legal system and they cant report on anything in their database.

 

They think that potential employers may buy a copy of their ( very short) file they hold on you

but as there was no investigation,

let alone conviction they wont want to be risking showing it to a proper authority.

 

they cant legally update that alleged file either so if it did see the light of day you can sue them for a lot more than they can ever earn from people's feelings of guilt.

 

This is the nub of it,

you still feel guilty about the incident.

Would you feel different if you knew you had been robbed at the time by RLP?

I bet you would.

 

As for the warning, final warning etc,

they are specific cases such as for police officers social workers and teachers,

not some bod in an ordinary job so even being sacked wont make that list,

let alone a reprimand

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Hahahaha, totally agree, thank you so much, I feel much more confident now.

 

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Thank you all for your help and replies

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Good luck with your application. Let us know how you get on


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