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    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
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We are on pay as you go both gas and electric and until the meters packed up electric on 31st Dec and then the gas on monday.

everything was ok.

 

the electric meter packing up left us with no electric at all and because EE were having their break they thought it would be a good idea not to have an emergency number..

I ended up speaking to SSE who came out 30 mins later to check the power into the house as they said just in case its a fault their side.

 

it wasn't,

it was a faulty meter,

SSE electrician got authority to bypass meter.

we then spent from 2nd jan to Tuesday 8th trying to get the meter sorted.

 

it was changed on the 8th after they reported us to SSE for unauthorised meter bypass,

which wasn't the case,

the meter was changed for a key meter.

 

the gas meter packed up on Monday this week,

and after lots of phone calls,

they sent someone to change the meter on tuesday.

that was changed for a card meter. no card left and no key left.

 

now EE have gone to the wall,

and ofgem who`s advise is to stay put until they change us over,

but where does that leave us without any means to top up our gas or electric..

 

.anyone have any suggestions have tried ofgem on their Facebook page but still waiting for a response...…

.thank you

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in the back of my head I believe that you can get emergency keys and cards from any paypoint retailer.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes you can

 

https://paypoint.com/

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Luckily as you've been here since 2009 you are fully aware that you never call these people without a call recorder and so you will have been recording all your phone calls. The recordings will be extremely useful to you later on when you start showing them that in fact you were authorised to carry out the bypass.

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Luckily as you've been here since 2009 you are fully aware that you never call these people without a call recorder and so you will have been recording all your phone calls. The recordings will be extremely useful to you later on when you start showing them that in fact you were authorised to carry out the bypass.

when the meter compliance chap came round, he confirmed it was sse that did the Bypass and that Economy would be getting the full bill for everything...

 

Rather than contact them that way better off ring them first thing in the morning.
unfortunately tried that then just ended up in a long queue with CAB, so will try again today.

 

in the back of my head I believe that you can get emergency keys and cards from any paypoint retailer.
thank you, will go up there today and see if i can get a card to do gas at least.

 

thank you all for your responses, will let you know how i get on ...cheers

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whats cab got to do with it??

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Finally sorted me thinks, phoned Ofgem, was transfered to CAB who then said they have a couple of working numbers for Economy, 10 mins later Economy phoned with the codes i need to go to local paypoint to get key and card......therefore if anyone is in the same boat be worth following that route to get to speak to Economy

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bingo....not so useless CAB...

 

well done

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I've just heard from OVO Energy that Economy Energy has ceased trading and OVO have taken over customer supplies.

 

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my post of 11th was incorrect not finally sorted, well until today anyway,

 

i had to go get card from shop,

they gave me one

put code in machine to activate the card and the code was not accepted.

 

went back home phoned them,

no joy office closed,

waited till next day by which point we ran out of gas,

 

by this point had an email to say ovo had taken over economy,

i phoned them,

they gave me a code to get a key for electric and said the key will have £25 credit to cover the credit i lost with economy,

gave me a code for the gas,

the card was collected from a specific shop,

got home card not working

 

phoned them yesterday ( out of gas at this point)

they sent engineer to put credit on meter,

gave us a code to collect gas card and also reimbursed us for the gas we lost with economy...

 

card picked up today everything now working and we have good credit on both meters …

.thanks guys

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glad its resolved.

 

thread title updated.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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