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    • Thanks for the advice and pointers much appreciated, letter will come from daughter in law but I would type it her up and print it off for her.   The officer told her he could not guarantee it would not happen again like you say I am astounded the Police have time to be stopping a driver who has proved 5 times now that she is legal to be on the road none of it makes sense.
    • We requested evidence for the PCNs and have received this. Where do we go from here?  BW_Legal_Evidence-compressed.pdf
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    • What should you do? Totally ignore them. Next time you are there take photographs of Athena's notice at the entrance to the car park plus the position of the others as well as any difference between the T&Cs of their signs. Also a picture of their payment meter as the T&Cs there are often different from the signs. Check with the local council to see if Athena have permission to erect signs and ANPR cameras under the Town & Country [Advertisements] Regulations -they are often online these days. Also ignore any future correspondence from them and their unregulated debt collectors and do not be afraid of ever escalating fees most of which have no basis in Law. The time to come back to us is if they send you a letter of claim where a snotty letter to them may discourage them.Also read other threads on here to get an idea of the numties you are dealing with. One amoeba has more intelligence than all the car parking rogues together. It is still worthwhile contacting Lidl even without your receipt and especially where you have a record of regular visits to them.
    • First, I'm a bit surprised that your local police force has the manpower and time to waste chasing up a complaint from a member of the public that a motability car's paperwork may not be in order, bearing in mind that most forces can't be bothered to follow up reported burglaries, if stories in the popular press are to be believed.  But if that's what the police officer has told you, that's what he's told you.   If you want to follow up his suggestion to make a complaint, check your local force's website for how to do so.  Or (bearing in mind the history of problems that you've had before) write straight to the Chief Constable (website again).   Simply say you want to make a complaint about the number of times your daughter (or whoever) has been stopped by the police for no apparent reason.  Give a list of when and where this has happened and what the outcome was (presumably that the police took no further action).  I would also add that in the latest incident the police officer actually suggested making a complaint about the number of stops.  Not only do you (or your daughter or son or whoever it is) find this police action to be extremely distressing, but you also consider it a waste of scarce police resources.   Ask for an explanation as to why this keeps happening and ask for an assurance that the police will stop doing it.   You may also want to add (see what others advise about this) that the police officer in the latest incident also told you that they had received a call from someone saying that the car's paper work "might not be in order".  Say that you are concerned that whoever made this false allegation is wasting police time.  (You may want to think carefully about this as it may not improve your daughter's relationship with her neighbour!  If the allegation came from the neighbour.)   Those are my initial thoughts but it's a bit late to be thinking clearly.  See what others suggest rather than just relying on my suggestions.   [The letter really needs to come from your daughter (or whichever family member keeps being stopped) and not you, unless you can make it perfectly clear in the letter who it is that is being stopped etc. and that you are complaining on their behalf.  Is that clear?]
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PRA claimform - old EGG now BC card debt ***Claim Discontinued***

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Name of the Claimant ? PRA Group

 

Date of issue 19/12/2018

 

What is the claim for –

 

1.The claimant claims the sum of £4793.79 for an outstanding debt owed.

 

2.On 20.01.2005 the defendant entered into a an agreement with Barclays Bank PLC for a credit card under reference …..

 

3.On the 06/05/2011 the defendant defaulted on the agreement with an outstanding balance of £5041.31.

 

4.On 17/08/2015 the debt of £5041.31 was assigned to PRA Group(UK) Ltd. Notices of assignment were sent to the defendant in accordance with S136 law of property act 1925.

Payments of £232.96 were received up to 20/03/20108 and adjustments have been applied in the sum of £14.56.

 

5.AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

1. The sum of £4793.79

 

An Egg CC debt £4793.79 + court costs

 

Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?Yes

 

What is the total value of the claim? £5058.79

 

what is the claim for: egg credit card

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? 2005 should I request the CCA I believe they won't have a problem proofing I owe this debt?

Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ?No it came off about a year ago

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.Debt purchaser PRA

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Yes sure I did !

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? Not sure

 

Why did you cease payments? Had a brain injury

 

What was the date of your last payment?19/12/2018

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management planlink3.gif? Yes

 

How shall I defend / respond to this

they seem to be using bully tactics and fishing for me to pay up the full amount which I don't have.

 

in March last year they sent me a full and final settlement letter asking for £1680.37

I counter offered £1200

they refused it and said they would only take £1945 which is bizarre.

 

PLEASE SEE ATTACHMENT,

I questioned this on another forum and was told the wording is not right and the balance should be zero.

 

If you have not already done so – send a CCA Requestlink3.gif to the claimant for a copy of your agreement

(except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)

 

Will Do !

 

Particulars of Claim

An Egg CC debt £4793.79 + court costs I went into arrears in 2010 after a head injury and have been making monthly payments. Egg was bought by Barclaycard since then and then they assigned/sold the debt to the PRA group 17/08/2015.

 

I have been paying without missing a payment but have not done their constant requests for income and expenditure.

I got a letter November 13th say my account had been transferred to the investigations and litigation department which I ignored.

 

Thanks for your help I don't have long to respond to this claim :(

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Request the CCA and CPR from the solicitors.

 

its unlikely theyll get a compliant egg agreement from that far back. Most simply dont exist. Plus the debts are chock full of charges.

 

First, go to mcol and acknowledge the claim, make sure contest jurisdiction is unchecked and click through to the end and exit mcol. This submits your acknowledgement and gives you more time for a defence.

 

The likely reason theyve gone to a claim is because youve blindly paid without question for all this time, and they have you marked as gullible. Put them to proof that they can indeed chase you for this.

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why have you come here SOOO!! late

I hope you have already acknowleged the claim [AOS] on MCOL website

else you might now be TOO LATE, and might already have LOST THE CASE.

you've lost 17 of your 33 days total to file a defence...

 

 

go it done NOW!!

 

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.

.

register as an individual

note the long gateway number given

then log in

.

select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.

.

then using the details required from the claimform

.

defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL.

.

get a CCA Request running to the claimant

leave the £1PO blank and uncrossed

.

get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

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type your name ONLY

 

no need to sign anything

.

you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.

you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]


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Thank you for the reply dx100uk,

 

I was away but I still have until Monday I think as its 5 days + 14 ??

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Get that ack done now. Then check to see if its been accepted.


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I make it sunday but get it done NOW

get the CCA/CPR away to PRA group tomorrow by recorded.

they'll have a job in getting the signed agreement [unless it was online?]

and the EGG T&C they never get right either.

 

esp as they say its a Barclaycard in their poc!!

they mention nothing about EGG on the court N1 do they?

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and dont tell them it was egg. If they try to come up with a barclaycard agreement, theyve already done the work for you and the claims sunk.


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Kewl I have submitted my acknowledgement on MCOL and might even send the CCA special delivery as it will get their Monday guaranteed :)

 

Thank you my friend !!

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and the CPR in the same envelope

pra have inhouse solicitors so no sep address is listed on the N1 form?


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Sorry what is a CPR do you have a template please?

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Also does PRA being assigned mean they own the debt I have read they are not a DCA but purchase the debt?!

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pra are debt buyers


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Hi again,

 

I have sent the CCA and CPR via first class signed for which they should receive Monday, I have also acknowledged the claim(AOS) but this has not been approved yet I hope MCOL do this on Monday!

 

But what would my defense be to this claim if they produce the CCA that is?

 

That I was making regular payments under an old agreement and they should not have cancelled it ! Thanks in advance.

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Dont jump ahead of yourself just yet. They wont be able to produce the CCA. Why? Because they think its a barclaycard. It isnt. SO theyve already screwed themselves over with it. Of course you dont tell them that. Its also highly unlikely they will even fulfil the CCA request, so the claim will just get stayed.

 

Be aware they may send you letters of their own back saying they have requested judgement, even though the courts timeframe is still in effect. They do this so you dont fill in you side of the claim, and then they WILL go for judgement by default, leaving you with no avenue of counter.


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need to get reading up steve

as far as I can see you've not read one other claimform thread in this forum.

 

although your defence is not due till day 33 [21st by 4pm]

no harm is finding out the stages of a claim and what to expect/do in the 'downtimes' between stages


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"What was the date of your last payment?19/12/2018"

 

So, are you still making monthly payments on this debt?

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Yep I am atm I will have to see how it pans out and what they come back with !

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I am paying £7.28 a month atm.

 

I rang MCOL my AOS has been accepted and the CCA and CPR arrived today signed for ! I have until the 21st to defend the claim.

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I am paying £7.28 a month atm.

 

What's the history behind this arrangement? Had you agreed it with Barclaycard or PRA?

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Hi Shamrocker,

 

It was agreed by BC originally!

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Hi Everyone,

 

Due to a family issue I have not give a defense to this court action and its due tomorrow I requested CCA and PRA have sent a letter 16.01.18 saying they have requested the required information from Barclaycaed.

 

But what would be my defense be in this case, do I dispute the whole claim on the grounds that no CCA has been produced ?

 

Thank You in advance

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PRA also included a letter from Barclaycard posted to me in Sep 2015 which basically said that my account was closed with BC and transferred to PRA group with an outstanding balance.

 

So they have not produced the original CCA but I am unsure how to defend this.

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Adapt a similar defence to suit your particulars...plenty of none response to CCA requests in the following....

 

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?190-Legal-Successes

 

 

Andy


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Thanks Andy,

 

I have read a few threads on your link but I would like the wording for the defense and the ones I have looked at don't have the wording !

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