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I read the other day that he's talking about visiting and his ambassador suggested May might be a good time.

 

Given that Trump cancelled a visit because of demonstations and more or less hid when he did come over, I wonder why he thinks it would be any different this time? He certainly seems very sensitive to people expressing their opposition to his policies.

 

Downing Street are trying to play down the significance of this.


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It coincides quite nicely with our leaving the EU? Brexit has opened the cracks wide enough to let out more than a few loons, so maybe he's hoping to get a better reception as the atmosphere in this country will be toxic after March.

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You could be right, Jase, but I'm not sure the people who demonstrated against him last time will have forgotten. I believe the Trump baby balloon is operative and has been on its travels.


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Yes, but he's a dangerous prat IMO.


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True, he is a knob but aside from lots of words, he's not really actually done anything different from any previous president. In fact compare him to GW bush who invaded Iraq on a made up pretext in 2003 (followed blindly by our very own Tony Blair), he's actually a heck of a lot 'less worse' (so far)

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Will you say that if he succeeds in destablising the Middle East, though London?

 

Agreed about Bush and Blair, btw.


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When has the middle East ever been stable?

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Not sure why every one derides Trump? Is it because his style is different? After all he is no worse than his predecessor made especially any of the Clintons. If the Clinton cow got elected would people be deriding her the same as they deride Trump?

Trump may not be ideal, but in my mind Clinton would have been a whole lot worse!

I am also wondering why no one demonstrated when the SA president Jacob Zuma visited as he used to sing on stage that people should be killing the farmers and he used to mimic holding a machine gun doing this? Never mind him being accused of being very corrupt and is still being investigated.

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Or remember when China's Xi, (declared himself leader for life) had a beer in an Oxfordshire pub with David Cameron lol. No protests then.

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Not sure why every one derides Trump?

After all he is no worse than his predecessor

 

LOL. Is it April first already. Hilarious.

 

and of course, just because some dodgy UK politician buys a meal for someone on Taxpayer paid expenses, really doesn't mean they or it are OK ...

 

Like Farage and his EU expenses ..

Or Corbyn and his terrorist/hero of the revolution wreaths


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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

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Who's Donald Trump?

 

Some psychotic child that Hilary Clinton and some white supremacist nihilists (except themselves of course) put in power.

 

Just like Neither May nor Corbyn would last 10 minutes if the other wasn't their 'main' opposition.

 

 

The downward spiral seems unstoppable.


I express my honestly held opinions - they are nothing more or less than that.

... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

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Actually between Hillary Clinton and Trump, Americans did not really have any choice so choose the lesser of two evils. Still wondering why there are no protests when we evil dictators guilty of killing thousands of people visit the UK, but people pick on a person like Trump? I am not saying he is ood or bad but wondering about these childish immature protests by people in the UK when he is NOT their president?

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Actually between Hillary Clinton and Trump, Americans did not really have any choice so choose the lesser of two evils.

 

childish immature president

 

I think 'Americans thought they were choosing the lesser of 2 evils' would be more accurate,

with 'lesser of 2 evils' being the critical part.

 

 

And your second part contains its own answer - as shown.

 

 

... and we of course appear to be in a similar situation.


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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

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I take great pleasure following "Trump" as he likes to call himself now-including the quotations!

 

He is a (failed) business man trying to run the American Government as a business. (IMO) I also find him petulant and I can imagine him stamping his feet shouting, "If you don't give me my wall, barrier, spikes, slats or whatever, I will hold my breath until you do!"

 

It is purely because of trump that I have taken an interest in US politics and the amount of vitriol given to Trump every time he posts on Twitter is amazing. One tweet even had over 25k replies. I couldn't check to see how many were pro Trump or anti Trump but the few posts I read, it seems the majority are negative to him.

 

Dare I even mention the Mueller investigation :behindsofa:


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If the Clinton cow got elected would people be deriding her the same as they deride Trump?

Don't think she's quite got the same attitude to men groping women - so no.

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I think 'Americans thought they were choosing the lesser of 2 evils' would be more accurate,

with 'lesser of 2 evils' being the critical part.

 

 

And your second part contains its own answer - as shown.

 

 

... and we of course appear to be in a similar situation.

 

It is rather childish and immature to edit my quote to suit your own agenda. BTW for how long has Trump been president of the UK? Why aren't people targeting dictators around the world who are slaughtering people by the thousands daily or is this acceptable to all those Trump haters.

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It is rather childish and immature to edit my quote

 

I thought it was quite insightful, particularly the simple fact that YOU included those terms in a very short paragraph when talking about Trump - even if you were strangely trying to point away from him regarding them

 

... I think your subconscious is trying to tell you something Surfer01 ... You should listen.

 

 

 

I think your argument that there are worse dictators in the world although valid, is little excuse for trumps antics.

- despite him (as you seem to be alluding in your comparison) actually coming across as a tin pot banana republic dictator, however much he might mistakenly think he's a Putin or Kim Jong Haircut

... and think how bad he almost certainly WOULD BE without democratic checks and balances.

 

Same with Corbyn and May - although those Henry VIII laws are still there for those wannabes.

 

 

State visit? Statesman?

more like 'what a state, man!'


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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

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I hope we can agree ti disagree without making this personal, people. :)


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Referring to post by Silverfox social media is a powerful tool which Mr T embraces big time. There's the saying any publicity is good publicity, and strange as it sounds we've seen it raise peoples' profiles even when the odds are stacked against them. Publicity is also good for exposing the evils of the world.

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As said I am still wondering why people in the UK are so upset that Trump is President of a country many thousands of miles away and on a different continent. He is not our president and neither is he a MP in the UK. I am guessing he is an easy target as people are too scared to protest against evil dictators in case they are accused of being racist? I neither support or oppose Trump as basically he does not affect my life while I live in the UK.

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As said I am still wondering why people in the UK are so upset that Trump is President of a country many thousands of miles away and on a different continent. He is not our president and neither is he a MP in the UK. I am guessing he is an easy target as people are too scared to protest against evil dictators in case they are accused of being racist? I neither support or oppose Trump as basically he does not affect my life while I live in the UK.

 

I'm not quite sure I can agree to this statement. I don't see any problem with speaking out against dictators no matter where they come from. Facebook and Twitter are the two platforms where I see more racist comments than any other.

 

I am interested in politics wherever it appears and I feel the need to say it how I see it. That is the whole point of living in a democratic country. I don't care that Donald Trump is a Republican just as I wouldn't care if he was a Democrat or an Independent. What I do see is Donald Trump, as a person has, in my opinion, no clue on what he is doing. He looks at the now rather than the future.

 

Trumps stated aim is to Make America Great Again (MAGA) however, the USA is not the greatest country in the world as some people like to state.

 

I saw this video on Youtube a week or so ago where Jeff Daniels played a part in this dramatic piece where he speaks 'A' truth. Watch it and make up your minds.

 

Warning, this video contains strong language

 

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My personal objection to Trump, apart from his treatment of women, vulnerable immigrants and others is that I don't think he's a friend to the UK. If we ever get round to negotiating trade deals, the US will walk all over us.

 

He treats the US's allies with derision and cosies up to dictators and fascists.

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I don't think he's a friend to the UK. If we ever get round to negotiating trade deals, the US will walk all over us.

So true and the morons we pay to govern this country will let him. We're going to lose all the protections for safe food and replace it with drug ridden/chemical soaked products. He'll insist on that as a minimum in return for any sort of trade deal.

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