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    • if you wish to put up everything like    your defence claimants WS defendants WS   then im sure those here now and future victims will find it of value   if you read upload carefully you'll see its best to upload each as a separate multipage PDF but ofcourse you'll have to redact each page as a jpg picture 1st before merging each to the relevant multipage pdf .   dx  
    • Thanks I’m happy to put something back ! I didn’t have the courage of my convictions to counter claim even though I was really quite proud of the thoroughness of my court bundle ! i really wanted the opportunity to get into the detail with the judge and felt quite cheated when it ended, but of course I realised that they had just moved on to their next victim  will watch this space 👍  
    • I have created your own topic for this as its import to have it own one but placed a link on the thread you posted on.   you should never counterclaim that exposes you to further cost and rarely succeeds esp if they disc' the claim always best to state in a sep letter you will be seeking costs esp loss of days wages at £90 which most judges allow.   as for an sar, its p'haps always better to issue a cpr 31:14 too or in replacement of, an sar.   well done on your important win
    • My wife has directed me to post on this thread as I have just successfully won against these charlatans   My hearing date was all set at my local court for 31st October 2019 all defence papers were filed and served and frankly I was really looking forward to it! This morning I received a letter from BW legal stating in a one line response that I was to take this letter as a notice of discontinuance whereby the claimant KBT (armtrac) discontinues all of the claim. I am beyond disappointed that I didn’t get my chance to see these idiots across a desk! And that’s it I don’t appear to be able to take this further? I now realise I should of had the courage of my convictions and faith in the advice of others to issue a counterclaim! What I have now in my possession is a file of information which would be Gold-dust to the next person in my position! I feel like I would be able to get some sort of closure if I could pass some of this wisdom on but there are many posters here already and every case is different in its own way The key points in my defence were as follows and useful to anyone ‘caught’ at Sandy Acres. Keep the original parking ticket you purchased and send a copy to KBT with a covering letter ASAP do not identify the driver at any stage of the process!!!!  The blue sign uses the word penalty which is contrary to the IPC codes of practice  The red and white sign has a café open sign in front of it  which obscures it from the drivers view both available to download via Google maps Check the date you receive NTK mine was 71 days Do an SAR and you will get back the pictures of the alleged offence in my case they were of such poor quality you could not tell which way up the ticket was in the photo and in no image they held was there a picture showing the ticket and the vehicle numberplate. They offered no other evidence. Pretty soon you will see the money is being sought escalate until they no longer match the figure on the NTK even if it is sent within 56 days When you see a breakdown of costs for the money being sought it will ultimately include legal costs, typically £60 that the solicitor knows cannot be recovered in Small Claims Court. Personally I am now considering reporting BW legal to the law society or solicitors ombudsman for being party to a process which is fundamentally dishonest, an abuse of process, and a complete waste of court resources?   i am happy to help anyone who needs assistance but rest assured that their case against you relies on you caving in and paying, they have no plan B but will try and make you doubt your ability to defend yourself.   Dont worry about small claims Court, it isn’t crown court, just an office with 3 desks and certainly less stressful than a job interview or meeting with the bank and less at stake.   I got to one week from my court date and they gave up!
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I have received a county court business claim form, issued 2 Nov 2018

 

Claimant Euro parking services

Solicitors Gladstones

The particulars are

The driver of the vehicle registration (the 'Vehicle ') incurred the parking charge(s) on

06/01/2018 for breaching the terms of parking on the land at Maghull Centre The Defendant was driving the Vehicle and/or is the Keeper of the Vehicle

 

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

£160 for Parking Charges/Damages and indemnity costs if applicable, together with interest of £9.37 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8% pa continuing to Judgment at £0.04 per day.

I am no longer the Keeper of the Vehicle they refer to having transferred it to Liverpool on 31 October 2018 in part exchange

 

This claim form has arrived 10 months after the date of the initial parking charge. I am shocked, as this county court claim form is the first time I have been made aware of a penalty charge on 6 Jan 2018. I have not had a ticket or anything attached to the vehicle on that date or any other date. After numerous difficult phone calls and enquiries I had to inform Euro parking of the vehicle details and registration. Something which I think should have been included in the particulars of claim. ( i contacted the county court and they said they would have expected vehicle detail to be more identifying).

 

After providing details and registration i was given the following from Euro parking:-

On 6 Jan 2018 an attendant took a photo of the vehicle parked outside the parameters of a parking space .

 

When he returned later the vehicle had gone, there was no mention of what time he returned

Since that date I was informed that a notice was sent to me 10 Jan 2018

 

Then again 7 Feb 2018

 

Then again in March

 

And since then something was sent in May

I have never received any of this correspondence. The first I have known of any event on 6 Jan is the arrival of a County Court Claim

I am very upset that I feel so threatened by a claim of £ 244.37 so long after the supposed event. The proof has never been made available to me until I contacted Euro Parking Services and had to provide them with the vehicle details and registration.

 

I feel this is dubious and questionable.

The amount is £ 169.37

Court fee. 25.

Legal rep costs. 50.

 

Total £ 244.37

 

I would appreciate any advice. I have a preliminary defence ready to be adjusted before submitting the claim form. I think I have to do this before 20 November

 

Thanks for your attention

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Remove the VRM of the car pdq


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what paperwork do you have and when did you receive it? there are strict protocols that have to be followed before a claim can be issued or the claimant may well get 50% knocked off if they win and have to pay full costs if they lose.

 

 

We also need to see the sigange at the site in question to see if their calim actually matches any of the terms.

Note they dont say what it is you are supposed to ahve done or not done, they dont say you owe the money undera contractual term or as a result of breaching a twerm of the contract offered by the signage. Something alse to use against the but until we see the ticket/letters and signs we cant say.

 

 

So, where, when and what. From wat you say this seems quite a simple defence but you should bear in mind they may well just create paperwork where none exists to press their claim so get everything you have together with dates and times please.

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pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.

.

register as an individual

note the long gateway number given

then log in

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select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.

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then using the details required from the claimform

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defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL

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get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

.https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim)

type your name ONLY

 

no need to sign anything

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you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.

you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.


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VRN vehicle reg number.

 

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VRM = Vehicle Registration Mark


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they havent used telepathy to send you other stuff so tell us what you received and approximately when as you say 10 months ago I had the initial parking charge.

 

Tell us if you binned the paperwork or whether you just cant find it.

Do the parking co have the correct address for the keeper(you)?

if not then tell us why this may be.

 

We need to know of every pitfall that may befall you as well as all of their stuff that can help you

 

 

 

What is the VRM?

 

The only paper work i have is the county court claim form.

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hi...i was in the same situation as yourself in 2017.....i had no paperwork as it was all thrown...read my thread on maghull square parking...take all advice given on this forum and ericsbrother is very knowledgable...good luck

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