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    • I have a problem, a serious one. On mid November 2023 my boiler (installed 10/21) failed and flagged up the code 29.10: blocked flue. The EB engineer came out and replaced the fan, said it was unusual, put it down to storms. On 16/12/23 the same thing happened. Another WB engineer came 18/12/23 and fixed it, but said it isn't the boiler, it is the flue, and that he would mend it this time under the guarantee but they would not do that again if it failed unless I got the installers to reinstal it. On 27/12 it failed again. 29.10. I did not call them because of their saying I would have to pay. I contacted the installers who responded, then stopped when they saw the WB report of 18/12. By February I had had no central heating or hot water since Christmas, so I posted a job for a heating engineer to give an opinion on the flue installation. He found the flue blocked with vegetation from the trees my neighbour planted near the wall, and which I have been desperate to get uprooted. He gave a report and photos, and agreed the flue needed reinstalling. I got nothing from the original installers, so I contacted the Gas Safe Register. They sent an inspector, who gave a full report and had the original installers down and they reinstalled the flue as instructed, and notified LA Building Regulations.   On Friday I received a certificate from the Gas Register saying the reinstallation of the flue had  been carried out by a registered heating engineer.  It was from the installers, and the certificate does say that it is 'not conclusive evidence' and they had notified the local authority Building Regulations on my behalf.  As I only received it Friday, I have not yet pursued it. On Thursday, as the installers said they had reinstalled and there was nothing wrong with the flue installation, and that the boiler was not working, I wrote to WB and asked them to come and repair the boiler.   During all this time I have been in contact with various people, including Citizens Advice.  I had hoped they would refer it to the Trading Standards because you cannot contact Trading Standards yourself.  I am hoping they will.  I have other serious issues to deal with.  I don't think elderly people are helped as much as they should be.   I had an email from them Friday - yesterday - demanding I deposit £200 with them before they come down to repair it. I told them I query that, and said I will consult on my consumer rights, sending copies of that to all concerned. This is their response: Thank you for your email. The £200.00 is reserved to ensure the work has been completed correctly – in the case where remedial work has been resolved, no charge will be taken. This is due to the amount of calls we have reattended in the past where remedial work has been said to have been completed but hasn’t been. If the issues detailed in the report from our previous visit have been issued, the money will not process and will simply go from reserved back to the customers account without ever leaving it. Under our Terms and Conditions: 6.1 Assignment and Subcontracting. We may at any time and without any notice to you assign, transfer, charge, subcontract or deal in any other manner with all or any of our rights or obligations under these Terms. You may only transfer your rights or your obligations under these Terms to another person with our prior written consent, which we will not unreasonably withhold or delay. Please refer to our website for full terms and conditions." Can they demand the money up front like this?   It is a week's state pension.  Would anyone give a whole week's pay for something which should be under guarantee?  I can copy and paste the various reports I have had from Worcester Bosch, including the one of 10/2021 when it was installed and failed 24 hours later.  The boiler worked until November 2023.  Also, I cannot understand the terms and conditions, because the boiler was given under the ECO3 scheme.  I have been on disability benefit - DLA - since 1992 and I don't remember signing anything with Worcester Bosch.  I am not sure if I am allowed to attach all the correspondence here.  It will take time, because the page keeps being unresponsive and I have to keep clicking 'wait'
    • for how many weeks/months/years have you been using it twice a week for...roughly?   she will have to request a new card, it wont be reissued or sent back to her if it was retained by the inspector.  
    • Liz Truss says Tories are part of a Blairite attempt to silence her. Reform UK leader Richard Tice said the Conservative Party is 'socialist' and suggested Rishi Sunak is not a 'real conservative'.   .. says the definitely NOT real Conservatives   Lets also hope that Starmer implements a clause where bringing the UK into disrepute, or breaching the requirements of ex UK PMs results in the permanent withdrawal of ALL UK taxpayer funding of them    
    • let 'em get on with it. they nor you have actually read what consequences under CONC mentioned in our SB letter mean under the law. dx  
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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more that they are seeing it as a GE vote issue they need to pretend to be noticing I'm quite sure

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Tories criminally and spitefully breaking the bank for their VIPals before they are evicted

Cant see any other reason

Labour should stand up now and say they will recharge this back at the Rat

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England and Wales had their respective warmest February's on record

according to provisional Met Office statistics in what was a mild and wet month for many

 

The average temperature in England for February 2024 was 7.5°C, topping the previous record of 7.0°C set in 1990. Wales saw an average mean temperature at 6.9°C for the month, marginally ahead of 1998’s record of 6.8°C. 

The UK (as a whole) experienced its second warmest February, averaging 6.3°C, but not surpassing February 1998’s figure of 6.8°C.

The UK’s 10 warmest Februarys on record  since 1884 now include 2024, 2023, 2022 and 2019. 

 

It was also a wetter than average month, with the south of England experiencing its wettest February since the series began in 1836. Many parts of southern England recorded well over twice the average rainfall.  

 

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England and Wales had their respective warmest Februarys on record according to provisional Met Office statistics in what was a mild and wet...

 

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Why?

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Campaigners say Ineos project in Antwerp will turbocharge plastic production on a scale not seen before in Europe

 

 

perhaps explains the ongoing failure to implement the plastic recycling scheme  - pals profits first eh?:

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Work on a flagship Government recycling scheme has 'halted', according to industry sources

 

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and Thames Water has discharged raw sewage into the River Mole and its tributaries for more than 4,700 hours in the first two months of this year, according to campaigners.

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A solar physicist who accurately predicted that the sun's explosive peak would arrive sooner — and be more powerful — than originally forecast tells...

 

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On 04/01/2020 at 20:03, tobyjugg2 said:

Record breaking temperatures ..

Yet we are currently at the solar minimum of a long stretch of solar minimums - fact

We should be experiencing abnormally cold weather - yet records on temperatures are being broken - and we are at the cold part of an extended cold cycle

We should be skating on canals and rivers but instead tehre are record breaking temperatures across the world.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/06/19/sun-entering-deep-solar-minimum-may-be-the-weakest-cycle-in-200-years/

 

Sun entering ‘deep solar minimum’ – ‘May be the weakest cycle in 200 years’

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Daily observations of the number of sunspots since 1 January 1977 according to Solar Influences Data Analysis Center (SIDC). The thin blue line indicates the daily sunspot number, while the dark blue line indicates the running annual average. The recent low sunspot activity is clearly reflected in the recent low values for the total solar irradiance . Compare also with the geomagnetic Ap-index . Data source: WDC-SILSO, Royal Observatory of Belgium, Brussels . Last day shown: 31 May 2019. Last diagram update: 1 June 2019 . [Courtesy climate4you.com ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NASA – Next Solar Cycle will be Weakest in 200 Years

 

September 5, 2019 by Robert at Ice Age Now

NASA dropped this bombshell announcement in a little-heralded news release coyly entitled “Solar Activity Forecast for Next Decade Favorable for Exploration.” In other words, NASA tried to make it sound like good news.

In the release, dated 12 June 2019, NASA described the upcoming decline in solar activity as a window of opportunity for space exploration instead of acknowledging the disastrous consequences such a decline could wreak on civilization.

Here are some direct quotes from the news release:

The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. (Emphasis added) The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.

Sunspots are regions on the Sun with magnetic fields thousands of times stronger than the Earth’s. Fewer of them at the point of maximum solar activity means fewer dangerous blasts of radiation.

The new research was led by Irina Kitiashvili, a researcher with the Bay Area Environmental Research Institute at NASA’s Ames Research Center, in California’s Silicon Valley. It combined observations from two NASA space missions – the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory and the Solar Dynamics Observatory – with data collected since 1976 from the ground-based National Solar Observatory.

In admitting that solar activity during sunspot-cycle 25 could be the weakest in 200 years, NASA was effectively forecasting a return to Dalton Minimum (1790-1830) conditions. But the release gives no mention of the ferocious cold, no mention of the disastrous crop losses, no mention of the ensuing starvation and famine, no mention of the wars over food, no mention of the powerful earthquakes, no mention of the catastrophic volcanic eruptions during the Dalton Minimum.

NASA Paper is HERE

Some people consider the low solar activity a trigger for other catastrophic events such as the 1811-1812 New Madrid Fault Earth Quakes and 1815 eruption of Mount Tamboura.  As you can see from this chart global cooling produced some strong eruption.

Volcanic activity

 
 

https://nextgrandminimum.com/2019/09/08/nasa-next-solar-cycle-will-be-weakest-in-200-years/

 

 

On 05/01/2020 at 21:19, tobyjugg2 said:

Now some of you may recall I said that there are going to be accelerated effects going into the current solar maximum expected to be around 2023.

I'm sticking to that despite the latest NASA projections saying that the upcoming solar maximum is going to be as low or perhaps even lower energetically than the last one - which was already low - with only around half the expected high energy sunspots.

God help us if the Sun flips back to its 1950 levels rather than its existing exceptionally low levels, and really does add to the global warming - enhanced by the greenhouse effects of the current levels of Co2, Nox, methane and water vapour.

A little reminder from 4 years ago here ..

Possible the peak likely occurred 04-09 2033 rather than the generally projected 2025 despite current levels being massively above expected - lets hope so.

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More on the effects of the wandering jet stream and massive dumps of the arctic cold into our latitudes

The arctic is warming at many times that of the rest of the world

These events will become FAR more common

 

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Temperatures are set to plummet due to an exceptionally rare phenomenon of Sudden Stratospheric Warming

 

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This seems like a no-brainer. If you don't have bees the crops don't get pollinated.

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Exclusive: Wildlife groups welcome promise to ban pesticides approved by government against scientists’ advice

 

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More sewage from the poop companies enabled by the poopulists - and in these cases not just the extreemist poop-cons

 

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The seaside town of Sidmouth, on the Jurassic Coast, is known for its royal connections as Queen Victoria visited as a baby

 

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Over the last month, it’s been whack-a-mole time as alarmists pop no less than three poster scares of climate collapse back into the mainstream headlines. The Guardian dusted down the old ‘scientists say’ favourite that there will be ice-free summers in the Arctic “possibly” within the next decade; billionaire foundation-rewarded BBC activist Matt McGrath gave us the ever-popular “Climate change: Polar bears face starvation threat as ice melts” story, while Peter Hess for the Daily Mail and Reuters filed a pack of nonsense reporting that the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) was in grave danger of disappearing due to the Earth being on the “cusp of the worst bleaching event in history”. All very confusing given that Arctic sea ice has been recovering for over a decade
 

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No - so says the Guardian quoting NASA ... and 97%+ of all climate scientists (or scientists in related fields)

compared to barmy bridgen and his 0.97% but noisy supporters - who seem to treat climate science denial as  a faith to be held on to based on nothing more than rhetoric that flies in the face of reality from people paid to promote nonsense

 

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February was the ninth month in a row to set a global heat record, with global average temperatures 1.77°C above the pre-industrial average...

Europe saw particularly anomalous heat in February, with average temperatures rising 3.3°C above the monthly average for (even just) 1991 to 2020.

High temperatures and dry weather also drove fires in North and South America, including the deadliest wildfire in Chile’s history

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British Antarctic Survey researchers have found that the rate at which ice is melting and contributing to sea level rise will accelerate in the next century...

Its just how quickly, and how much the sea level will rise is at question.

Look at worst case scenarios for a real world median - which may well end up being conservative.

 

On 11/12/2023 at 10:25, tobyjugg2 said:
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...and four that offer hope.

 

 

On 21/12/2023 at 14:47, tobyjugg2 said:

Perhaps drill and capture it - before the ice melts - rather than giving licenses to drill in the North Sea for 2 weeks worth of gas?

 

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A sea of migrating methane discovered below the permafrost in Svalbard may eventually escape its icy prison if the permafrost...

 

 

On 10/01/2024 at 20:13, tobyjugg2 said:

Absolutely misleading (as lying ***** wouldn't be allowed)

Ignore the 'science sceptic 'blog and take heed to the REAL science

 

NASA

""Summer ice extent in and around the Arctic Ocean has declined significantly since satellites began measuring it consistently in 1978. The past 16 years (2007 to 2022) have been the lowest 16 minimum extents, with 2022 tying 2017 and 2018 for 10th-lowest in 44 years of observations."

 

and Nature:

Abstract of Abstract

 Here we show that the Arctic sea ice regime shifted in 2007 from thicker and deformed to thinner and more uniform ice cover. Continuous sea ice monitoring in the Fram Strait over the last three decades revealed the shift. After the shift, the fraction of thick and deformed ice dropped by half and has not recovered to date.

The timing of the shift was preceded by a two-step reduction in residence time of sea ice in the Arctic Basin, initiated first in 2005 and followed by 2007. We demonstrate that a simple model describing the stochastic process of dynamic sea ice thickening explains the observed ice thickness changes as a result of the reduced residence time. Our study highlights the long-lasting impact of climate change on the Arctic sea ice through reduced residence time and its connection to the coupled ocean–sea ice processes in the adjacent marginal seas and shelves of the Arctic Ocean.

 

and Scientific American report (among many many other REPUTABLE sources)

"The year 2023 shattered the record for the warmest summer in the Arctic, and people and ecosystems across the region felt the impact.

Wildfires forced evacuations across Canada. Greenland was so warm that a research station at the ice sheet summit recorded melting in late June, only its fifth melting event on record. Sea surface temperatures in the Barents, Kara, Laptev and Beaufort seas were 9 to 12 degrees Fahrenheit (5 to 7 degrees Celsius) above normal in August."

 

 

 

 

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A simple model describes the stochastic process of dynamic sea ice thickening, shows how reduced residence time affects changes in ice...

 

 

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According to satellite observations, Arctic sea ice reached its annual minimum extent on Sept. 18, 2022. The ice cover shrank to an area of 4.67...

 

Thickness/actual quantity of ice has shrunk dramatically (thinner ice and shorter periods of thickening) - which will likely lead to a VERY short final collapse period

"Summer ice extent in and around the Arctic Ocean has declined significantly since satellites began measuring it consistently in 1978. The past 16 years (2007 to 2022) have been the lowest 16 minimum extents, with 2022 tying 2017 and 2018 for 10th-lowest in 44 years of observations."

 

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Climate change is already disrupting lives in the Arctic, and the warmest summer on record will certainly have an enormous impact on the people...

So the amount of Ice IS shrinking - and significantly

 

On 17/01/2024 at 20:20, honeybee13 said:

This is scary.

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Total is 20% higher than thought and may have implications for collapse of globally important north Atlantic ocean currents

 

 

On 20/01/2024 at 17:40, honeybee13 said:

Here's an interesting time lapse film from NASA on sea ice. It talks about an overall decline, as I read it.

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Several record-setting summer lows, combined with poor wintertime recoveries, have fueled a persistent decline over the past few...

 

 

On 06/02/2024 at 21:19, tobyjugg2 said:
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JCB will take 10% of the green hydrogen made by Australian mining company Fortescue Future Industries.

Arch brexiter Bamfords'JCB and a firm called Ryze Hydrogen would then distribute it in the UK.

Lord Anthony Bamford, chairman of JCB, said the deal would help to make green hydrogen a viable solution, telling the BBC it was "the right thing to do".

"Lord Bamford's son and entrepreneur Jo Bamford also owns Wrightbus, which built the world's first hydrogen double decker"

 

For what little its worth - arch Trussite fwee trade chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has also said "low carbon hydrogen has a critical role to play in the UK's transition to net zero" "its production, and use, would have to rapidly increase for the government's ambitions to be achieved"

 

 

 

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Temperatures too high even for fake snow

 

 

On 09/02/2024 at 10:01, tobyjugg2 said:

 

So, @theoldrouge

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

 

 

Reality (in the ice packs main growth season)

The year 2024 began with an average January Arctic sea ice extent of 13.92 million square kilometers (5.37 million square miles), the twentieth lowest in the 45-year satellite record (Figure 1a).

During the month, extent increased by 1.09 million square kilometers (421,000 square miles), which was (20-25%) slower than the 1981 to 2010 average increase of 1.33 million square kilometers (514,000 square miles) (Figure 1b).

Extent actually declined for a few days at the end of the month. (in ice growth season)

- and that isnt

even comparing it to the much higher pre-industrial average

 

- national snow and ice data center

 

Nothing Swift about January’s Arctic sea ice

 

and compare @theoldrougeseptic bog to the real skeptic blog

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Dr. Tapio Schneider discusses the science behind human-induced climate change. He is a climate scientist and Professor of Environmental Science...

 

 

On 12/02/2024 at 17:50, tobyjugg2 said:

?

 

So, @theoldrouge

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

 

So, @theoldrouge, yet again

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

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perhaps this goes some way to answer your question HB?

Operation Timber

 

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Exclusive: Sarah Olney to press in parliament for details of scheme being drawn up in event of supplier’s collapse

 

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and of course this where they appear t have lied about how much their debt costs not 3p in the £ - but 28p in the £

 

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Britain’s biggest water company said just 3p in every pound that appeared on bills went to its lenders

and lets be clear, labour are just as much to blame as the Tories

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

10 years to save the Vest

After Truss lost the shirt off the UKs back in 49 days

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