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I have received a letter of claim today from restons re: Cabot financial (vanquis credit card).

 

Do I

 

send a*CCA Request*along with the completed form:

 

box D*ticked

 

I dispute this debt because..the debt purchaser has yet to provide any or all of the required documentation.

 

box I*ticked

 

I have requested by way of a*CCA Request*the signed agreement.

 

a complete set of statements detailing exactly how the debt has accrued:

I. All Transactions.

II. any additional charges, be them from the original creditor or the debt purchaser now sending me this form.

III. details of all contractual interest added by whom and on what date.

IV. Payments toward the Agreement

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Please read the details of the new pre-action protocol before doing anything.

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Yeah I've read that thanks.

 

Now under paragraph 6 of their faq which has all my details etc on about the debt it states

 

6. AM I ENTITLED TO SEE A COPY OF THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT?

 

NO.

 

the letter of claim explains that your liability is for money outstanding under a credit facility arising from a write an agreement you entered into and that a copy of that written agreement can be requested from the creditor.

 

However you are not now entitled to see a copy of any actual agreement you signed ie: the agreement with your signature on it.

 

As an example, under legislation, a creditor, when required to provide a copy of an agreement, is entitled to provide a reconstituted copy- in other words a template of the original.

 

So,if you do request a copy of any agreement please do not expect to a see a document which contains your signature.

The debt under the credit facility exists and remains whether or not you are now provided with a copy of the agreement.

 

We, on behalf of our client, may also advise you a copy of the agreement is not currently available (or any other document referred to in section 4 of the reply form)

 

Is this correct?

 

I thought i was allowed to request an actual copy I had signed?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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god no

good spot why has that line gone from the file

i'll go put it back.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yeah I've read that thanks.

 

Now under paragraph 6 of their faq which has all my details etc on about the debt it states

 

6. AM I ENTITLED TO SEE A COPY OF THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT?

 

NO.

 

the letter of claim explains that your liability is for money outstanding under a credit facility arising from a write an agreement you entered into and that a copy of that written agreement can be requested from the creditor.

 

However you are not now entitled to see a copy of any actual agreement you signed ie: the agreement with your signature on it. As an example, under legislation, a creditor, when required to provide a copy of an agreement, is entitled to provide a reconstituted copy- in other words a template of the original. So,if you do request a copy of any agreement please do not expect to a see a document which contains your signature.

The debt under the credit facility exists and remains whether or not you are now provided with a copy of the agreement. We, on behalf of our client, may also advise you a copy of the agreement is not currently available (or any other document referred to in section 4 of the reply form)

Is this correct?

I thought i was allowed to request an actual copy I had signed?

 

Not sure where the above as come form...its not part of the new Pre Action protocol ?

 

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Not sure where the above as come form...its not part of the new Pre Action protocol ?

 

Andy

 

It has came from restons mate.

They put it in as a FAQ.

Can I email you a copy of what they've sent once I get home?

Regards.

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Thought as much....must be one of their own additions to pave the way for not being able to disclose the agreement:wink:

 

Prefer you to post it here then all users can see how they are already manipulating the Protocol to suit their inadequacies.

 

You must only use the forms proved in the link DX as posted...not variations drafted by any DCAs or its Solicitors.

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I have added the reply form to that thread and a note not to use the one supplied with the DCA PAP letter

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have added the reply form to that thread and a note not to use the one supplied with the DCA PAP letter

 

dx

 

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dave we need to see that PAP letter they've sent

scan it up to ONE multipage PDF only

read upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Prefer you to post it here then all users can see how they are already manipulating the Protocol to suit their inadequacies.

 

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thanks. that would be interesting to see.

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boy will it...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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restons pap in above post

 

so all they are doing is pointing out that because the agreement is post apr 2007 they don't have to supply the signed agreement.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Not particularly Post April 2007 agreements......any.

We could do with some help from you.

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moved to the provident forum until/if a claimform IS issued

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 5 months later...

Today I have received the following.

Advice please guys.

Many thanks.

Will only let me upload 5 at a time bare with me please.

 

. Can a mod please merge as I always struggle wot h these attachments many thanks.

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ONE multipage PDF please

read UPLOAD

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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search for one!

make a multipage pdf app

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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