dcbl - notice of debt recovery

[yakky]

Have been sent a notice of debt recovery from dcbl after losing against gladstones in court.

 

Went to court over a parking ticket in June and lost.

Waited for a further letter from the court with instructions to pay.

 

I received a letter from the court ordering to pay on or before 3rd of July.

But this letter was received after the 3rd of July.

The envelope has no date stamp of when it was posted.

There is no where on the letter stating the judgement will be entered in the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines.

 

I have no registered CCJ either on trust online or any credit search.

 

I do not want to pay gladstones on either their very scamy looking website or automated phone line.

 

What should be my next steps?

[dx100uk]

you mean this thread?

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?477127-ESP-Gladstones-claim-form-164-166-PLYMOUTH-GROVE-MANCHESTER-M13.

 

so what's this one all about and why didn't you come here for help with it?

 

can you scan up the letter from DCBL to PDF please read upload

[yakky]

see attached PDF

 

i had three parking tickets from the exact site as described in that thread..

..they were all escalated.

..one of them was thrown out,

the other went to default judgement against me so i paid in full and

this one they are persuing I did go to court but my defence was crap.

jpg2pdf-3.pdf

[ericsbrother]

then you should have paid the amount ordered by the court to the claimant, which is the parking co.

No need to ever speak to Gladdys or anyone else then.

 

You still only need to pay the parking co and only the amount ordered by the court.

DCBL are not acting as bailiffs, they are just relying on that reputation to makwe their letters more scary

[dx100uk]

I dont think DCBL can work as county court bailiffs ?

and they can't be acting as HCEO's as the debt is not above £600 is it?

 

so DCBL are taking the preverbal

 

this could be serious if my thoughts are true.

[yakky]

okay so my next step is to contact es parking?

 

no not above £600..plus it does say on the back of the letter this case is not subject to high court or bailiff action.

[dx100uk]

sc@mmers then

 

you could put in a N245? to vary the amount if you don't want to pay it in one go.

[Bailiff Advice]

 

plus it does say on the back of the letter this case is not subject to high court or bailiff action.

 

Despite complaints (and I've made a fair few of them myself), DCBL continue to mislead the public into believing that the debt is subject to bailiff enforcement when it ISN'T !!!

 

Judgements under £600 cannot be enforced by a High Court Enforcement company and statutory fees cannot be applied.

 

If the judgment is OVER £600, it can be enforced by a DCBL appointed bailiff and statutory fees can be applied. In almost every enquiry that I receive regarding DCBL, the compliant concerns the absence of a Notice of Enforcement. The frequency of identical complaints cannot be a coincidence.

 

PS: As misleading as it is, this particular notice states that a £75 (plus vat) fee is also due. NO IT ISN'T.

[brassnecked]

as BA states, they can go whistle for the £75 which they hope you will roll over and pay, mind you they might be cheeky, knock on the door and add another unlawfull Enforcement fee of £235 to the debt making it £528 see where this is going? another spurious "admin" fee to bump it up over the magic £600 then they being a not very ethical shower might try their luck at High Court to be able to enforce as HCEO.

[yakky]

Can I still contact ESP to pay original amount? Not sure how to pay them with a proof of payment.

[dx100uk]

post 8 IMHO

[yakky]

thanks dx100uk

[ericsbrother]

If you want to pay up yu send ES a cheque to their registed address. they will have suppiled that on the original NTK or that wont be legal.

 

 

Can I still contact ESP to pay original amount? Not sure how to pay them with a proof of payment.

[yakky]

hi all,

 

sent a cheque to the address for payment on the court order which was gladstones..

 

they sent it back

 

edit: also received a second letter from dcvl

jpg2pdf (2).pdf

[dx100uk]

both can be ignored

 

you were told to pay ESP directly ...not their monkey

 

have you a copy of the CCJ and the claimform?

[yakky]

have you a copy of the CCJ and the claimform?

 

Yes, I do still have both

 

see attached

jpg2pdf-5.pdf

[dx100uk]

their address is top left on the claimform...that's who to pay

 

they have paid out [i will assume] fees to the DCBL expecting them to be bailiffs they are not in this instance, they cant add any fees.

so that's ESP's tough luck they'll have to pay the fees not YOU,

[ericsbrother]

the form tells you eveything you need to know.

 

If they refuse your cheque you keep the letter and cq safe as you would no longer owe them the money.

It is a thing called mitigation.

 

Unless they got the court to enforce payment you dont owe another penny other then the £100 ordered.

 

If they do send you chaque back I would be tempted to write to the court with a copy of the rejection letter and inform them of this and ask that it be recorded that payment waas refused so you want it ahown as settled on the file

[yakky]

Hi all,

 

I was sent the attached letter from ZZPS last week.

 

A couple of years ago ES parking claimed against me for three separate parking charges.

 

One claim was struck out as they did not file in time.

Another I was ordered to pay before it got to court as I missed a deadline on filing

a third I went to the county court and was ordered to pay a reduced amount.

 

I am sure that I paid the charges and that we used my husbands credit card but have been unable to find evidence of these payments so far.

I specifically remember they did not send any receipt or proof that we had paid through email or post.

 

All the paperwork I had regarding the cases I threw out so I do not know which claim no. they are using.

 I have had no letter from a court saying I have a CCJ. 

 

I have checked with TRUST Online and checked my credit report and there is NO CCJ so I am unsure why this company have sent me this letter.

I would really appreciate any advice on this. 

 

ZZPS want to collect unknown CCJ sum.pdf

[yakky]

I have just been reading through this thread.

The amounts are the same but I no longer have any paperwork related to it as it was paid two years ago! 

 

I am checking to see if I can find the payment amount made from one of our accounts but both my husband and I remember paying this. 

[dx100uk]

well time to wrap it up then

 

why not get the credit card? statements via an sar proving it.??

 

but as earlier in this thread

there is stuff and all a powerless dca can do  nor add.

 

I suspect its the same one 

 

no harm in ringing northants bulk as before and asking for the claimform and CCJ judgement by email pdf

[yakky]

i intend to ask for the claimform and recheck all our statements as we have been looking at the wrong dates. 

 

should i reply to zzps? 

[dx100uk]

god no

don't give them any kind of feelings of grandeur 

[yakky]

I found the payment from my account (wohoo!) but all I have for it is a transaction number. It was a cheque. 

Edited June 7, 2020 by yakky

[dx100uk]

well i'd be checking claimform numbers first 

you have their letter

you need to findout if its the same as the one you paid.

 

pers i'd be sweet talking northants bulk

I know your say there were 3 sep PCN's 

but DID all 3 actually have Claimforms issued?

 

but the bottom line is WHERE did your money go..and who ran down the pub that night with it....

 

dx