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Hi everyone


Looking for some advice regarding debts my wife and I have.


So a little history. We took on several credit cards and a catalogue account. I lost my job and was unable to make the minimum payments after racking up the debt.


Debts were eventually passed on to DCAs. Here is a list of them with current amount owed:


Cabot £1200 (Wife, originally HSBC - 2007)

Moorcroft £1800 (Myself, originally HSBC - 2006)

Capquest £2200 (Wife, originally Littlewoods - 2014)


Debts have been through various other DCAs such as Fenton Cooper, Arrow Global etc. apart from the Littlewoods debt.


We were making token payments based on the advice from CAB while unemployed.


We have offered settlement amounts to all of them several times over the years only to be ignored or refused (around 40 - 50%). Capquest's best settlement offer at the moment is 29% off.


Anyway, eventually got back into work and have been for a few years, and wife increased repayments to £50 each per month in the hope of eventually paying them off to be debt free.


Today we applied for a mortgage since we're paying a fortune in rent and were refused on wife's credit rating. We had a look at her credit report today and found that when Littlewoods sold the debt they closed the account with a default notice in 09/2014.


From what I've learned, Capquest can no longer add any more default notices and it should disappear off her credit file eventually and we'll have to wait until then to re-apply for a mortgage.


After spending some time today reading through various forums including this one, I have realised we been complete mugs paying the amount we're currently paying as it doesn't appear to have any impact on our credit ratings.


Should I still be paying these idiots? Should I go back to token payments for the rest of our lives? I now realise there is not much benefit in us paying these debts off. Or is it worthwhile persisting with them to get a reasonable F&F?


Any advice would be most appreciated. Thanks.

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Hi soldat and Welcome to CAG


Cabot and Capquest buy debts so they may be the legal owners of the debts now...(Littlewoods to Capquest ?) I would send them a CCA request for a copy of the agreements


With regards to Moorcroft..they dont and only collect on behalf of ...so send their client a request for that agreement.


They have 12 + 2 days to comply and if they fail the agreements are unenforceable in court unless with the courts permission.


Subject to their responses you can then review your current payment options.





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Thanks Andy


I believe Arrow Global are the people Moorcroft are collecting on behalf of.


I've read up on CCA requests so will get those sent off. Do I continue to make the same payments as normal between now and the date to comply? I feel like I'm chucking money away if they don't come back with the agreements. (one can hope)





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Yes...as they make come back with valid copy agreements.

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Cheers again Andy


Wife is panicking. Found some info about on another debt advice website stating if we've sent F&F letters in the past that we've admitted responsibility for the debt. I assume that these hold no weight legally if they don't have the CCA?

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F&F offers are not necessarily an acknowledgement of debt...it could have been made under duress by anyone...even by the the wrong person unconnected to the agreement.


An acknowledgement of debt, commonly referred to as an “AOD”, is a document which contains an unequivocal admission of liability by the debtor.

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Hi Andy


I posted the CCA Requests off on the 6th August.


I've finally had a reply from all three DCAs.


Arrow Global: We do not accept we are the creditor as envisaged but are willing to assist with the request. Collection is meanwhile suspended. Find enclosed your postal order.


Cabot: We've been unable to get the information requested from the original lender so your CA is unenforceable. But please continue to pay us (pretty please).


Capquest: We've forwarded your request for documentation to Shop Direct Finance.


Since it's been 10+2 working days, I assume its safe to stop all payments?





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2 debts now removed from the cash cowers milking parlour

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Received another letter from CapQuest today. Placing our account on hold for 28 days while they wait for a response from Shop Direct.


Thanks for all your help guys. Only wish I'd found your excellent forum earlier.

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