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I attended a evening wedding reception at the HOLIDAY INN SOUTHAMPTON.

 

I drove around the car park twice but didn't see any signage about parking fees.

 

I parked my car and went in through the side door of the hotel which was hired out for the wedding party and guests.

 

I was very upset and shocked yesterday to receive a parking fine for £60 through the post.

 

I telephoned the HOLIDAY INN straight up and explained I was a guest to the wedding of ?? and ??, on the 14 July but she said there was nothing she could do.

 

Do I just pay it and not have a leg to stand on?

 

I have never had to deal with anything like this before so thats £60 down the drain :|

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it is NOT A FINE

nowhere do they use that word?

 

please complete this

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Do I just pay it and not have a leg to stand on? I have never had to deal with anything like this before so thats £60 down the drain :|

 

 

WHAT!!! Are you crazy???

 

 

Of course you don't just pay it!!! Bloody Scummers!!

 

 

Is this local to you? The Holiday Inn?

 

 

OH and it ISN'T a FINE, ONLYthe police and councils can issue fines, NOT parking Lie.

 

 

Keep your money, these clowns aren't getting a penny.

 

 

If HI claim they can't do anything about it, then you NEED to escalate it out of their hands into the area managers, OR, on their social media sites, just embarrass them on there for using a cowboy parking outfit on their land.

 

 

The trouble is, is that you spoke to the gopher on the phone, when you should have demanded to speak to the manager.

 

 

If the manager won't deal with it, then you go to the area manger, and if they won't deal with it, you go above their head......PLEASE do NOT pay this silly invoice, it ISN'T a FINE, these clown are NOT the Police.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 14.07.18

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 25.07.18

 

3 Date received 30.7.18

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] N

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? y 2 photos

 

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal] N

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

 

7 Who is the parking company? Parking Eye Car Park Solutions

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] HOLIDAY INN SOUTHAMPTON

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. APPEALS DEPT, PARKING EYE, PO BOX 565, CHORLEY if appeal unsuccessful they will give details of the IAS (POPLA)

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

 

 

copy the windscreen or ANPR section to your thread and answer the questions...

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Thank you. Yes it's very local to me. I am going to go there tomorrow and speak to them. If they still wont budge I am worried that the time with lapse and it will go up to £100 on 7/8/18. I don't have any debt letters come through and I am worried that they will harass me with notices etc.

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Hang on, hold up...

 

1 Date of the infringement 14.07.18

2 Date on the NTK 25.07.18

3 Date received 30.7.18

 

Anyone else see the elephant in the room?

Please note that my posts are my opinion only and should not be taken as any kind of legal advice.
In fact, they're probably just waffling and can be quite safely and completely ignored as you wish.

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Agreed Dragon. Plus the ntk doesn't mention pofa

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please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 14.07.18

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 25.07.18

 

3 Date received 30.7.18

 

Is there any posting date on the envelope?

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted

(6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

 

So, it can’t have been sent before 25.7.18

They might try to claim it was sent 25.7.18 and presumed to have been ‘given’ on 27.7.18. OP can state it was received 30.7.17, but it’d be nice if the OP can conclusively show (postmark?) the posting day being later than the 25th!

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] N

 

Another reason to not identify the driver, and to deny keeper liability can be established.

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BazzaS I understand why you quoted the postal legislation. However that is for the day the letter is posted, which is not necessarily the same day as the date on the letter.We know that is a common trick used by some bailiff companies to post out their letters some days after the date on the letter but many of the large companies do the same with letters that are written after the post has been collected for that day..

 

The letter has taken a bit longer to be delivered than one expects which could be for several reasons

a] the letter was not posted until a day or two after it was dated

b] the OP got the date of arrival wrong

c] whoever delivered the letter were inefficient

d] UKPC received the data from DVLA too late for it to arrive within the statutory time so they dated the letter earlier to

disguise that fact.

 

The OP should write to the DVLA asking who asked for her data, why they asked for it and the date they replied to the data request.

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Thank you so much for all your replies and help, I've been awake most of the night worried about what happens if I don't pay, do they harass with notices etc.

 

I definitely received this letter on Monday and I have dug the envelope out and it says on the envelope DO NOT IGNORE - THIS IS NOT A CIRCULAR and there is no date postmark just a black square saying DELIVERED BY ROYAL MAIL C9 10002 and their registered address on the back of the envelope

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a DCA is NOT a Bailiff and has ZERO legal powers lauren

 

ignore until/unless you get a letter of claim

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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\o/\o/\O/\o/ You guys are brilliant and can't thank you all enough.

 

I went to the Holiday Inn today and asked for the Manager. They sent the duty manager out and I explained that I was a evening guest and honestly hand on heart did not know that I had to register my number plate. She explained, with attitude, that there are 17 signs around the car park saying about Parking Eye blur blur blur.... She also said I had to pay Parking Eye in the first instance, then appeal it through their legal process, they will contact the Holiday Inn who will then confirm I was there. I said you can confirm now as 1. their is photo evidence in their correspondence shows I was at the Holiday Inn on the evening of the wedding and 2. I have the names of bride and groom what more evidence. She kept me waiting for 20mins whilst she went and found the manager who said ON THIS OCCASION ONLY they will withdraw it but there is 17 signs around the car park and I should take more notice in future.

 

I am so happy and thank you all very very much :whoo:

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So no more weddings at Holiday Inn Southampton Its suppose to be a joyous occasion not an opportunity for them to penalise thier customers who are keeping them in employment.

 

Thread title amended to include their name so others are aware.

 

Get conformation that this has been withdrawn.

 

Regards

 

Andy

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So no more weddings at Holiday Inn Southampton Its suppose to be a joyous occasion not an opportunity for them to penalise thier customers who are keeping them in employment.

 

Thread title amended to include their name so others are aware.

 

Get conformation that this has been withdrawn.

 

Regards

 

Andy

Can't thank this site and people that replied enough, thank you, pheww I was so nervous BUT held my ground and preached some stuff .

I have got her name so I will email them to get it in writing.

Thank you for amending the title.

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Hi, well done for standing your ground. Hotels should most definitely be able to cancel parking tickets gained on their car park. I have done this twice, once for myself (my own son's wedding) and once for another at the same hotel. I simply forgot to register my car at reception as I started talking to some other guests.... Also a colleague who was attending a meeting at a Hilton hotel got his cancelled.

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Hi, well done for standing your ground. Hotels should most definitely be able to cancel parking tickets gained on their car park. I have done this twice, once for myself (my own son's wedding) and once for another at the same hotel. I simply forgot to register my car at reception as I started talking to some other guests.... Also a colleague who was attending a meeting at a Hilton hotel got his cancelled.

 

Thank you Ell-enn :)

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