MET ANPR PCN - Southgate Park - Stansted

[The real me]

Hello Dragonfly1967

My story is similar to this one.

 

I parked in Starbucks very late at night,got out to get a McDonald's,stayed for 5 hours while waiting for a delayed plane.

 

I've been reading through the advice since I got my MET demand a month after I parked at Southgate Stansted. I'm now at the stage where they have sent me letter from debt recovery. They say if i dont reply by the 24th of July they will assume the NTK was the driver.

 

I've ignored everything so far.

 

Should I still ignore debt recovery.

 

Thanks

Edited July 18, 2018 by DragonFly1967
Split thread, linked back to other thread

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Good old MET Parking. Never one to disappoint when you're in need of a giggle.

 

Can you have a look at THIS POST please, copy and paste the relevant parts to 'Notepad', fill in your answers and then post it back to this thread

 

Also, if you have any of the documentation that's been sent to you so far, please upload it to this thread (after you've removed any personal information, registration numbers, reference numbers, Bar & QR codes). Thanks.

 

As for Desperate Recovery Plus. You can ignore them to your hearts content.

 

They just like to waste paper with idle threats

[ericsbrother]

follow the advice given to the other posters regarding this site,

get on to Starbucks and get them to tell MET to cancel.

 

Careful how you word your request as you dont want to identify yourself as driver( they have written to you as keeper and dont know who the driver is so dont help them).

 

Only mention MaccyD's if they share the car park and if they do then get on to MaccyD's as well.

 

As your NTK was too late to create a keeper liability

you could let the food companies know that MET arent obeying the law and just trying to rob their customers blind and that you will consider them equally culpable for the parking co's unlawful actions.

[The real me]

Hi.

I've read the other threads on this subject and have a similar story.

MET contacted me with a reminder notice a month after the event. (£100).

 

There was no ticket on my car.

 

I briefly got out to get a McDonalds.

 

I ate that in the car.

 

I was in the star bucks area but near the burger bar or cabab thing whatever it was.

 

It was late a night I did not see anything about restricted parking.

They have a photo of me entering and one leaving 4hrs later.

 

I'm at the stage where I've now got a letter from a debt recovery company.

 

They say if i dont contact them telling them the name of the driver they will asume the keeper was the driver.

 

Is that lawfull ?

 

I've not appealed to anything yet as people have advised not to.

 

What's you thoughts please.

 

Thanks

[The real me]

Hi , sorry it taken so long to reply. There was no ticket on the car, the first i knew of it was when they sent me a REMINDER parking charge notice on the 5.5.18.

Sorry i cant upload a photo of the parking charge notice.

I wouldn't know where to start with that one.

Thanks for any advice..

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 31.03.18

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 4.5.18

 

3 Date received 5.5.18

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] no

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? yes

 

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up no

 

7 Who is the parking company? M.E.T

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] South Gate Park Stansted Airport

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. POPLA

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here DRP, Zenith collections

 

 

copy the windscreen or ANPR section to your thread and answer the questions...

[dx100uk]

read upload

it explain how to do it there.

[ericsbrother]

do they refer to a ticket issued to the driver?

 

probably dont because they use ANPR and cant get the issuing of the NTK right on most occasions. This means there is no keeper liability so don't name the driver and they have no-one to chase.

 

they cant assume anything, the law was made specifically to deal with this and they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

 

It also makes a claim for breach of the GDPE/DPA a possibility if you want to go down that road

[The real me]

Hi.

They don't refer to a ticket at all . J

ust a reminder parking charge notice.

 

Reminder of what i said to myself.

That was the first i'd seen of anything.

 

It says on the back of the reminder notice , The registered keeper details were obtained from the DVLA because we have reasonable cause to obtain and use this information in accordance with the data protection act 1998.

 

in order to trace the keeper of the vehicle that has not adhered to the parking terms and conditions. bla bla bla.

 

Im going to hold my nerve and see if a court date comes through.

 

Ill go to court......whatever......

 

Thanks guys..

[ericsbrother]

Yes, we know that they tell lies to the DVLA and you can sue them for that but I would consider that another battle to be fought after this one.

 

What to do?

well ignore them is the best thing to do, they will get some toothless rent a threat to write to you with increasingly scary letters and a supposed bill that goes upwards but as you owe nothing it doesn't matter if the ask for £100 or a million quid, zero is all they are getting.

 

If they do actually threaten court action ( that will be a new one for MET) the you can tell them that they are barking up the wrong tree and will lose their claim as long as you use the correct terminology.

 

Chances are once rumbled they will skulk away but you don't want to be doing this too soon or they will think that you actually care about them

[The real me]

Hi. I'm new to this and not sure if i'm posting in the right place.

 

I received a parking notice in the post in February 2018.

The date of the alleged offence was in March 2018 . 

 

I was receiving letters and debt recovery letters but this all went quiet until now.

I recently received a Debt Recovery + letter. 

 

I have thrown away all letters regarding this issue as i thought it was dropped.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[honeybee13]

Hi. I've moved you to the Private Parking forum and left you a link from the Welcome Forum where you posted.

 

People should be along to advise later - can you post up a redacted pdf of their letter please, as it's the only thing you have?

 

HB

[borisbeaver]

Can you double check your dates as my calendar says that February is before march.  Did you get the notice in March 2018 with the alleged date of the infringment February 2018?

[The real me]

Hi Sorry for that.

just looking at my original posts, and i filled out a form on the forum.

It shows i got the reminder parking charge notice on the 5.5.18. well past the date of the of the alleged infringement. which was on the 31.3.18.

thanks

[honeybee13]

I've merged your threads to keep the information together.

 

HB

[The real me]

Hi Thanks for merging my threads. Very helpfull.

Its taken me some time to work it out, but here is an upload pdf of the DRP i received the other day.

Hopefully.

Thanks again.

DRP.pdf

[dx100uk]

should be scanning stuff not ever throwing it away.

 

thats not a letter of claim so safe to ignore..just don't move within 6yrs of the event without informing MET.

 

dx

 

[The real me]

Good tip. will do in future.

Thanks