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    • Sorry but this was your first mistake. "Sold as seen" makes a huge difference. It means that the person you are dealing with can't be trusted and it is immediately a huge red flag and a massive hint you should walk away. I think we are still waiting for you to tell us who the dealer is. I agree with my site team colleague @dx100uk that you will have to bring a court claim in respect of this. However the problem will be one of enforcement of the judgement. It is beyond doubt that you will win your case – but I'm afraid that enforcing judgements can be very tricky especially with disreputable car dealers and this certainly seems to be a disreputable car dealer in that they are trying to fob you off with "sold as seen" and also within 24 hours they are already refusing to acknowledge your consumer rights. You should realise that although you are protected by the consumer rights act – and of course, everyone it is, enforcing those rights can be a different matter. For future reference, when you go to see a vehicle, it's a big mistake to feel comfortable and smug because you feel that you are protected by consumer rights. You need to be looking at the business that you are dealing with to ask yourself that if they decide to betray your trust, will you then be able to force them to step up to the mark. This is the constant difficulty that we have on this forum when dealing with second-hand car dealers. When you tell us they were the dealer then we may be to give you more information.   If you do eventually get the dealer to promise to give you your money back, then you need to be very careful about how you manage it. It would probably be most unwise to put the dealer into possession of the car and the money at the same time. You will need to organise a proper exchange. Whatever the situation, you going to need to move quickly and very assertively. This probably means that you should issue a letter of claim almost immediately – but let us have a look at the enforcement problem first. What is the name of the dealer? Also, I notice that you say that you are going back on a motorway. Does this mean that you live some long distance away from them?  
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After a bit of advice. A friend of mine has recently split from her husband. She's moved out but he's being a [removed] and not allowing her back into the flat to get her possessions including clothes and jewellery.


Does she have any recourse in law such as obtaining a court order to allow her to recover her possessions?

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After a bit of advice. A friend of mine has recently split from her husband. She's moved out but he's being a [removed] and not allowing her back into the flat to get her possessions including clothes and jewellery.


Does she have any recourse in law such as obtaining a court order to allow her to recover her possessions?


I would think the Police would attend if asked to ensure your friend can collect her possessions and no law is broken. I suppose the act of the ex husband could be considered a continuation of abusive behaviour towards your friend. It is not really what the Police are there for, but if a court was asked to apply an order saying that the ex husband had to allow her access to her possessions, then the Police might be called anyway, if there was possibility of violence or public order issue.


Suggest your friend speaks to local Police on 101 to see if they can assist.

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There are other factors, too, if the flat is owned by them, or is on a lease of over 7 years.

If so, whose name is the title to the house in? (The ‘legal title’ held at the land registry).


If hers, (or both of theirs) she has a right of access. As others have said, the police won’t get involved in the nitty-gritty, but will come to ensure no breach of the peace (as they will if the property is on a lease of 7 years or less)


If he holds the legal title (& she is not listed), if he is being that difficult already, he may get more unreasonable. She needs to see a solicitor and protect her rights by getting a restriction placed at the Land Registry / notice placed at the Land Charges Registry under the Matrimonial Rights parts of the Family Law Act 1996.

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Many thanks for the responses. Tallies with the advice I'd already given her which was to ask the police to attend and consult a lawyer.


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