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    • i would suggest that you stick to researching on here only. use our search top right for say CTAX or liability order.   you seriously have some wild theories, but those are understandable.   as i have said, there won't be a court hearing you need nor would that help you at all nor are expected to attend, it's not like that, it's merely a rubberstamp exercise .   there is no right of forced entry for bailiffs collecting CTAX debts. the bailiff process is one of a letter which will be entitled Notice of enforcement, this gives you 7 days to pay the sum it outlines with an associated fee of £75 for it being sent. the 2nd step will be a visit, you have no legal remit to engage with them at all, i i would not do so under any circumstances, that visit will add a further £235 fee those are the only things a bailiff can do. the most they can charge is a total of £310.   police do not ever get involved in civil matters like CTAX debt. not sure where you ever got that idea from.   its saturday now so use the W/end wisely, get reading up HERE ONLY it might well pay you on monday to go RING the council CTAX dept and plead poverty etc etc. it might also pay you to find the email address or even better phone number of your local MP and get him involved. they can do wonders.   dx 
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    • Hi Stu and dx1000uk,   I have done the online assessment and as I suspected I already receive the maximum benefits available ot me. Yes I was referring to the fact that some times I know that non-payment of council tax can lead to imprisonment so thanks for clarifying. But let's say I can't make their demands for payment and they do send bailiffs in, I assume these are the type of bailiffs I can just not let in and then after a certain amount of attempts they give up right? But does the council then not send the police round? This is what I can't work out and worries me. The council already know that I am struggling and can't make the payments but when do I get my chance to tell a court or the police that it's not that I don't want to pay but that I can't pay?    Walshy
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I do not wish to reveal details about another poster, but I can assure you that tomtom knows what they are talking about.

 

I don't mind revealing my own credentials:

I work for HMRC and spend some of my time dealing with Tax Credits (the rest of my time I deal with taxes).

 

I do not speak as a representative of HMRC and I have no inside information about your case but:

you are not going to be prosecuted.

Stop panicking.

Make your SAR

- the Compliance officer dealing with your case will not even know you have done so.

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Thank you for your response

- do you have any advice on how to address something that I know I should have checked last year.

 

They only want 3 months but I know my circumstances changed before and I told them.

 

They said it didn’t arrive and I have no proof of postage and I signed the year before declarations by all accounts wrong I take that on board.

 

I haven’t opened the post I just checked the bank!!

 

My own fault 100% and I own that.

 

Surely if I just say yes to the details they want that sounds suspect and they will ask more??

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Sorry to sound spoon fed how do I approach this please

 

i want to get it out of the way and know where I stand.

 

And will it take months as I’m on happy pills and not good.

 

Sorry to ask have you read my huge long long post so you know how bad my case is thank you

thank you so so much for responding.

 

I want my life back I have lost so much weight in a week and half through this.

 

My own fault I know.

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its not your fault

simple reply stating you have filled out their on line sar [in the link I posted earlier in post 2]

and are awaiting the response from the before responding correctly.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Can I ask and I don’t mean to sound rude

- what is your experience and how do you know?

 

. I have spent 6 years studying and I was so excited to get my job everything tells me to be honest to get the best result of no custodial

 

. I thought and have been trained to believe that it all can be used and brought as evident although I say I am still in training

 

. I’m probably looking too deep or so my partner says but I’m thinking POCA (lose my home) and thinking they will think I have lied

 

. I’m frightened to do the SAR incase they think I’m trying to be defensive

. And I’m frightened to say jan 17 even though I told them but they have told me they haven’t got that info

- I don’t know how to respond (want to call not write)

- I know it’s in my favour if they pay me again on Thursday as I have written 31/5 (they say haven’t got it ) and I have done it online with child benefit (they have said they have this one funny enough) in regards to my son leaving school and my claim should now always be over

- so if they pay me again they are demonstrating they are not actioning data.

 

Please help I had to fight so hard to get to where I am and I am so scared

 

 

I have been a Fraud Investigator with the DWP for the past 12 years so am used to dealing with these issues and I have been dealing with Tax Credit fraud investigations since the inception of the Single Fraud Investigation Service for about the last 5 years.

 

 

We have our own compliance team for DWP benefit and HB and they ask for evidence informally to correct a claim, which we cannot use as evidence as it has not been asked for under caution, it can only be cited at a later date should the same type of thing occur again and HMRC has it's own compliance team that does the same.

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Thank you for your amazing response.

 

Whilst I appreciate that I now need to do a SAR I do still need to address the questions in my first post and need to respond by 13th

 

any advice would be so so appreciated.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I understand what you are saying but I don’t see the relevance of the SAR if All am saying yes he lives with me but I told you 18 months ago.

 

They have said they don’t have the letter and even so I am still saying he lives with me

 

not sure what good it will do other than prove they don’t have the letter?

 

I am still so scared.

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nothing to be scared of

 

make them prove the details they don't or do have!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes I understand that but I still have to supply bank statements for the requested 3 months and bills and everything else which he’s on some?

So I prove them right when I provide the stuff.

 

On another note they have stopped the payments this week although child benefit still hasn’t stopped.

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And I want it over with asap so it’s not dragged out as everyday I’m waiting for a letter or someone knocking inviting me to interview under caution.

 

Is there anyway I can call and get this sorted without them trying to prosecute me. Please help as I can’t just wait for the SAR.

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Neither of those will happen and no you let it run

 

Stop panicking about a NOTHING

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Neither of those will happen and no you let it run

 

Stop panicking about a NOTHING

 

Thank you so much for your help DX.

 

Just to be more of a pain can I ask some other questions.

 

I am off CTC now completely as son left education.

 

When I phoned to nag them about making sure they had changed claim, I did say about partner and that I had told them but that I would deal with compliance team this was a week and half ago.

This was when she confirmed that they had not had a letter regarding it.

 

So going by what I read on their compliance manual will they use that info to prosecute or fingers crossed fine me?

 

Also compliance manual said that in some instances they don’t do anything of you don’t respond but that they can formally request info what does that mean?

Can they go to banks and request your accounts etc?

 

What happens if I don’t respond to the compliance letter at all?

 

And what do I do when I get the info from the SAR?

 

The compliance letter reference numbers at bottoms are TCC2036 and it’s ref says HRR 18.

 

Thanks again for any help you can offer

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Hi.

 

 

Please wait for answers from people with more experience than me, but I would say that not responding is likely to cause more problems than it solves. I believe they can get information from banks and building societies if they think something is amiss.

 

 

If your read other threads here, people have worried about what will happen but the compliance people have generally been reasonable. I wouldn't put off dealing with this, you will just prolong the agony for yourself.

 

 

Hopefully others will be along to comment later, but weekends are always quieter here.

 

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Thank you Honeybee I am in such a catch 22 there has been advice on here which has be invaluable but I’m unsure of the last few question.

 

Thank you for responding.

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have done as post 29?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have done as post 29?

 

Hi I have done as far as request the SAR as per post 29 but I have not told them this yet. I was waiting to see if someone had response to my question that I posted after your earlier post with a few more questions - sorry to be a pain

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Thank you so much for your help DX.

 

Just to be more of a pain can I ask some other questions.

 

I am off CTC now completely as son left education.

 

When I phoned to nag them about making sure they had changed claim, I did say about partner and that I had told them but that I would deal with compliance team this was a week and half ago.

This was when she confirmed that they had not had a letter regarding it.

 

So going by what I read on their compliance manual will they use that info to prosecute or fingers crossed fine me?

 

Also compliance manual said that in some instances they don’t do anything of you don’t respond but that they can formally request info what does that mean?

Can they go to banks and request your accounts etc?

 

What happens if I don’t respond to the compliance letter at all?

 

And what do I do when I get the info from the SAR?

 

The compliance letter reference numbers at bottoms are TCC2036 and it’s ref says HRR 18.

 

Thanks again for any help you can offer

 

This is the post I responded with dx100

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just send a letter stating you will fully reply to the HHR 18 when you have the sar return

and go read post 30 again.

 

no need to keep worrying about nothing....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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