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ideally we like to get these fleecing DCA's on the hop when threatened with a set aside and N244 fee payment clawback , some do when confronted immediately do it FOC there and then. but as you've already phoned you might have tipped them off, but then you had no idea when you were talking about now you do. your call dob't forget also the damage done to your credit reputation by them raising the claim on an SB debt when they know they shouldn't. just remember, if you read a good few erudio threads here, they only went for the CCJ as they knew they'd get a guaranteed backdoor one if you'd known about it and defended they would have run away as they always do on these SB'd SLC loan
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with regards the card, did you send hoist a CCA request? as for the defaulted date, if a creditor took several months from last payment date to register it, there is most certainly objections to that that can be made should they raise a court claim and these have been successful for us. as for the OD, again if months or even years have been allowed to elapse before it gets a calling in notice, then again there are objections we've seen and used to very good effect. send lloyds an SAR and prepared. the OC would have defaulted these not the DCA debt buyer on or before sale. where was the Letter of claim and was that simply for the Card debt.
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By Badgergirl25 · Posted
I have the last ever deferment acknowledgement letter from SL ever made and received if that helps. Rather than call, would it be better in writing? I find them very intimidating on the phone and went to pieces last time after waiting in the queue so long. -
yes all i know some court fees might be due ie they did take you to court , but it failed did it not..so..
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Hi All, My partner is being chased by Hoist/Robinson Way for a couple of old debts: 1. Lloyds credit card. 2. Lloyds student overdraft RW claim proof of debt assignment was sent but nothing was received. We haven't seen any documentation showing the original agreement. We've asked for documentation showing when payments were made and when the last contact with Lloyds was, as I'm pretty sure these are statue-barred debts. In regards to debt 1 above, the documentation showed that the last payment was November 2014. Nothing was paid since and there was no contact. RW are claiming, however, that the debt was marked as defaulted in 2017 by Lloyds therefore it's not statue-barred. My understanding is that the limitation is based on "the earliest date the account could have defaulted, regardless of when the default notice was issued" but there seem to be differing opinions about this online. Apparently some creditors choose to delay defaulting a debt intentionally. My question is - does Lloyds marking the account as defaulted in 2017, three years after the last payment was made, mean this debt is not statue-barred? In regards to debt 2 RW have given us no documentation whatsoever, i.e., last payment or contact. They're still waiting on Lloyds apparently, yet they've logged both debts against her credit file; we queried this with Experian who said they'll speak with RW but ultimately they wouldn't be able to remove this information without feedback from RW. Interestingly enough, after raising an objection with Experian, both debts disappeared from her Experian records a couple of months ago, only to reappear a few days later. If someone can clarify what impact Lloyds marking account as defaulted in 2017 rather than 2014 (when the last payment was made), that would be appreciated - does this mean the debt is not statue-barred? If you need further info or if there's a template I should fill out please let me know. Cohen sent a letter of claim on behalf of Hoist/RW in regards to County Court but not heard from them since we've disputed the debts. Many thanks.
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