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    • you need to realise that for every person that does come to CAG and register and tell their story...there are poss 10'000 that don't but search the interweb whereby threads that are here pop up relating to like issues they are searching upon.   Most CAG siteteam and many other registered Caggers give advice that bears this in mind and post information which not only informs the starter of a thread upon what to do, but also takes into consideration the readers from the interweb that also read the relevant advice given that might not be brave enough to register and fess up.   to that end, there is very little alternative than to appear to give 'grief' [you deserve it - tough] to a cagger should certain previous advice not have been followed.....yours is a very classic case of such. hey I've found a backdoor CCJ.   to put it bluntly, had you have followed such previous advice, you most certainly would not be in the situation you are in here now.. .so by example, not giving you grief, for future readers...………..   ...never ever move without informing a debt owner of a move of address on any consumer debt that you last used or paid within the last say 7yrs. your credit file is a major key to ascertaining that information.... .but don't just read this advice come to the consumeractiongroup.co.uk website and let us help.   lecture over... what can you do..or more importantly....what can a claimant do now they have a default forthwith judgement against you. well we can't guess.... they might simply ignore it as 1000's of people with CCJ's find out..but it becomes an issue should you wish to say get a mortgage, remortgage or further credit.   i'm not going to enter into any of that here...that's for the reader to start a thread here and seek advice on their individual situation specific to them as you have done....   so...  bearing the all of the above in mind...over to you with regard to this backdoor CCJ.   as for the other debts that you didn't action before...go read your old thread and action what appropriate advice is given there for each type of debt that has been given should you wish to avoid any further backdoor CCJ's.   dx                    
    • hello my very good helpful friend. I am afraid to say that i did not. As i did not realise the relevance of it.   Should i be doing this right now of anyone on my credit file ?   Plz don't give me grief if u have already advised me...   do i do the ccs request now to everybody in that thread ?    
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CPM ANPR PCN - for NOT using KFC but Parking in their Car park!! Hereford

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Coporate services have sent a parking charge notice to a friend of mine, after 5mins of parking there.

 

they state that the reason for the charge is because they didnt use the premises.

 

im wondering do they need to prove that they didnt need to use the premises of KFC, in order for them to charge this invoice?

 

if so will a simple email stating that they did indeed use the kfc on the day in question and its down to them to prove that they didnt in order for them to pay.

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

 

 

Please don't write anything until the forum experts have had a look at this. You talk about Corporate Services - is this a company car?

 

 

We need the information requested in the forum sticky please.

 

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket

 

 

Best, HB


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DO NOT CONTACT THEM AT ALL and NEVER use email for any matter to do with parking cowboys, at present they have nothing to casue them to do anything and a lot that allows your friend to sue them.

 

Seeing what they have issued will help us a great deal as will telling us the exact llocation of the place.

 

Charging anythine for supposedly not using the business is a complete nonsense and that is supported by case law as well as a number of other things so no need to worry at all.

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its not from KFC...nothing to do with them..


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Hi,

Can you post up the notice? If so, can you make sure all personal info, reference numbers, Car reg and barcodes.

 

 

IF this is from KFC, it would be highly unusual. I would read what they have sent carefully especially at the bottom of the letter where company info is usually printed


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its not a company car, but my friend is a little apprenhensive about posting picture s on a public forum that could be used against them in court.

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So long as the registration number of the car is obscured, any pictures would be of any car but I understand your apprehension.

 

 

Can you please fill out the questions posted by honeybee as this will help us help you. Be exact with the post code and then we may be able to use streetview to look at the site.


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they already ahve the same picture- they took it!

 

 

its not a company car, but my friend is a little apprenhensive about posting picture s on a public forum that could be used against them in court.

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For windscreen tickets (NTD) please answer the following questions.

 

1 The date of infringement? 12/3/18

 

2 Did you appeal to the parking company? no

 

If yes, has there been any response?

 

If no, have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? Yes

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) Yes

 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances]

 

5 Who is the parking company? Corporate Services Hereford

 

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Thanks for that info.

 

 

This is the company

 

 

http://www.cspmparking.co.uk/

 

 

They are not affiliated with KFC. They just manage the car park.

 

 

As a member of the BPA, they are supposed to allow a minimum of 10 minutes grace period. Did your friend keep the receipt?

 

 

What date did the NTK have on it? With windscreen tickets, if no response is received within the first 28 days then the company can apply to the DVLA for the keeper details. The NTK must be received between 29 and 56 days after the notice to diver has expired.

 

 

If your friend chooses to appeal, he/she must not state 'I was driving' Only ever state 'The Driver'


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here we go go the images of the relevant letters.

 

my friend doesnt have a receipt for the day in question, also paid in cash.

what should they do?

 

thanks for that info, i had another go at it and hopefully this is the correct one. file attached in pdf. with barcodes and names removed.

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The NTK states that they are the managing agents, which makes them a third party in any action so they cant actually demand money from you.

This may be an error of their wording of the letter but nonetheless thay have actually stated they dont have an interest in this matter so I would take them at their word.

 

They also miss out the key words required to create a keeper liability under the POFA so again they are either telling the truth and dont have any rights or they are just useless and have now shot themselves in the foot.

 

Either way you as the keeper dont owe them any money and as they are only agents the driver doesnt owe them any money either.

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really, oh my. i was wondering what should my friend does now? by the way they are over the moon with this information, you have all been so helpful. they are concerned as the second letter is from debt recovery service which state they demand payment, by tomorrow 12/06/18. what is the next action.

 

 

 

what did they miss out because i cant see the error?

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You (and your friend) can completely ignore Desperate Recovery Pass. They are just a paper tiger. There's more power in a flat battery :wink:


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You will have to read the POFA and study it line by line and you will then see.

 

As you havent read up on dca's either then both of these subjects should be your homework, look at threads in the debt subforums as well as in the parking section.

 

It will hopefully become clearer as to why you should follow the advice regarding ignore for them.

Your friend would be advised to do some homework as well, better all round as they will then not be panicked into doing or saying something rash

 

 

really, oh my. i was wondering what should my friend does now? by the way they are over the moon with this information, you have all been so helpful. they are concerned as the second letter is from debt recovery service which state they demand payment, by tomorrow 12/06/18. what is the next action. what did they miss out because i cant see the error?

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hey all,

just want to thank all of you that have been helping me through this mine field.

 

I understand that this maybe a simple thing for you all to sort and im very grateful for that assistance.

ive been trying to read the POFA SCHEDULE 4 and its written in a way that makes zero sense to someone like me.

my friend was on track to ignore them but is scared that this will go to court and that they will have baliffs round trying to take the car or worse.

 

any clarifications on specific points im missing would be absolutely amazing.

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right 1st

a DCA are NOT BAILIFFS

they cant SEND IN BAILIFFS

 

forget the crap you see on TV [i'e cant pay we'll take it away]

they are high court lot

and can never be involved

 

as for court bailiffs, the nice lot

they'd [CPM would have to WIN the court case FIRST and then he will have had to have not paid with in one calendar month too boot!


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whatever happens, DR+ wont be involved, they gte paid to write letters and that is all they can legally do

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sorry for the late reply, and thanks again all for all the time and effort you have put into this for helping myself and my friend out.

 

hyperthethically what would happen if we contact the creditor at this time in the process?

im clearly not going to do anything like that but with all your experience if we did email them stating that we went into the establishment, and asked that they proved it otherwise (wheter or not the individual actually went in or not) how likely is it that they have the evidence to prove the contrary?

 

i guess im questioning their due diligence.

 

in youre experience what would you say to this?

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they will ignore anythinmg you say and take the contact as being a willingless to pay up if they make a few more threats.

 

They are greedy and that is why the amount asked for is more than they are legally allowed to claim.

Why would you think that once they have started to tell lies they are suddenly going to change their story?

 

This also shows that you havent read up enough about them

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indeed, the the whole thing actually disgusts me and needs to be changed.

 

it seems that you cant park anywhere nowadays without having to pay someone its a disgusting tax on the populace that lines the pockets of the private sector.

 

im so glad that you guys are here for people like myself to help us through this mine field. \o/

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they only prey on the weak and ignorant. The latter is not meant as an insult but if you dont know any better you would think that they have a lawful reason.

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